Quote from: mantor84 on September 01, 2017, 02:35:11 PM

Maybe I'm wrong but Innosilicon seems to be not the strongest competitor for Bitmain.
So far I know they had already a bad delivery history and still charging a high price compared with Bitmain.
My brain can not understand this ...

Bitmain L3+ vs Innosilicon A4+
504MH/s    ~520MH/s
800W    ~750W
1870$    ~ 2600$

Delivery time will be mostly the same or even later (Innosilicon bad delivery history).
Don't know why anyone should buy from Innosilicon even Bitmain was a bit too expensive for the last Batch.
I wanted to buy some but I thought Bitmain would sell the L3+ under 1500$ so I passed this time.

Am I missing something what makes the Innosilicon A4+ more interessting than Bitmains L3+?
If they are able to send their miner till mid/end of September it would be a advantage but I don't believe it.

"will we achive a huge Group Buy Discount Undecided

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If Innosilicon want to get more attention they shall start to sell their equipment way cheaper and proof they can deliver itheir miners in time with the same performance they sold it.

1400$ for the new A4+ would be a statement against Bitmain and could bring Innosilicon back to the road.

At this point it does not appear that Inno is in any position to try and challenge Bitmain on pricing. I did not get that impression at all from the communication I received. As a matter of fact they are stating that after the pre-order is over most likely the price will be going up.

This won't be a "price leader" miner from all indications so far. And I am getting confirmation on the ship dates, but it was implied that it will be the same Oct-Nov ship timeframe. Orders will be shipped based on when the order was received.

So if you want to order 3 or more units today you can place your order on the web site now. However note the exchange rates for LTC and BTC are WAY OFF and I have asked them about updating that.

I am still getting details on a group buy. However in the past there wasn't a big discount offered to us for the group buy. But we will see if what kind of incentive they may offer us. If the A5 pricing is any indication even if you buy at large volumes like 100 the discount wasn't enough to be of significant help.