Quote from: twicezeroiszero on September 07, 2017, 10:53:27 AM

How about Dash and Zcash? If you compare top old coin on coinmarketcap to Monero, I think Dash and Zcash also like Monero.
Of course, I'm a fan of Monero and do not spend my money for invest to Dash or Zcash (but I have invest to 2 coins clone from them are PIVX and Zcoin)
However, I want know your opinion about them.

Dash is a scam that was pre-mined or insta mined whicher term you prefer and Evan personally screwed me and alot of other miners on launch. It is also a substandard crypto that offers nothing other coins cannot. It's rise has been because of the massive premine and subsequent fork that changed the mining reward to make that pre-mine worth even more. Furthermore with the masternode addition it took much of the owned coins off the market and paid them dividends thereby continually lining the pockets of the scammring preminers. 500 Masternodes were taken offline and used to pump the price and that is why Dash's market cap increased. And now the masternode system has finally failed and been removed so I would expect alot of profit taking in an orderly fashion so as not to tank their ill gotten gains.

Zcash is not Trustless and the Devs are tied to state run intelligence services so therefor not trusted in my mind. It is touted as being anonymous yet the Devs speak of tracing transaction for LEO, so take from that what you will.

All of this info I just stated is true and verifiable.

Quote from: babygun on September 07, 2017, 11:09:06 AM

Monero price is for the moment quite stable, it is fluctuating around 120$. Do you guys expect on the short term a new rise or? I am now it is sometimes difficult to predict, but I am just curious Wink

Depends on your definition of short term, I expect suppression while those that dumped at the high accumulate more for the next pump they allow. I see this coin as being intentionally suppressed constantly for whales to stock up then they allow the coin to rise organically as it should and then they take profit. One day they will not be able to get back in without a loss, unfortunately as they have proven that day is not today and may never come if people continue to loan at ridiculous rates. Also I believe those loans are those same whales. When those large loans at stupid low prices get hit many times they will jump higher. It is another intentional suppression of the rate.

Quote from: leea-1334 on September 07, 2017, 10:29:30 AM

Newbie to Monero here. I have a small amount, but with recent price climbing I have a nice $50, which for me is a great start with no regrets to buy in later. Now I found a coin I like and I can have faith in. My burning question is this,,, why or how on earth did Dash become so much, that it is more than even Litecoin and Monero combined? And why has the recent bad news not affected Dash?

Also, why do Dash and Monero people hate each other?

Dash supporters hate Monero holders that speak the truth about Dash (as they cannot refute those truths) and Monero supporters hate Dash for various reasons some of which I outlined above and the other main one is that Dash set itself up as a direct competitor to Monero with substandard code and paid shills to Fud monero. Monero does not have a pre mine they can use to pay people to attack other coins Dash does pay for marketing and fudders/damage control.

BTW guys if my posts help you then here is my XMR address.

Code:

4JUdGzvrMFDWrUUwY3toJATSeNwjn54LkCnKBPRzDuhzi5vSepHfUckJNxRL2gjkNrSqtCoRUrEDAgRwsQvVCjZbS1G3NEJZSdy7mMXSb6

ALSO: Be aware that the market acts on forces not always tied to a coins worth, case in point tether which has ZERO liability and can disappear at anytime becoming completely worthless and people pump it and act as if it's an investment when in reality is is completely owned and controlled by a shady exchange that refuses to publish the funds backing it and has a disclaimer on their site stating that they are not liable if they decide not to honor their own token! USDT is not a safe place to keep your wealth, it is actually the riskiest of any real crypto with a decent Cap.