Quote from: gweedo on May 17, 2013, 05:38:15 AM

Quote from: JimCGSavings on May 17, 2013, 05:26:49 AM

Quote from: gweedo on May 17, 2013, 05:14:17 AM

Well people who abuse the system are wrong, and make me sick. I could be paying for your medicate and in that case, I be extremely upset that my money is helping you get bitcoins.

Let me ease your worried mind then. I don't get Medicaid. I don't have health insurance. When I get sick, I get to get over it. There. Feel better?

I hope the government finds out about this, and what you are trying to do, and puts you in jail for 5yrs and your wife in home. You deserve to see a cell. "Fraud" is serious and government "Fraud" is the worst in my opinion. You think your stealing from the government when in turn your stealing out of my pockets. Your a piece of scum.

Quote from: pwi on May 17, 2013, 05:28:11 AM

I am not for hiding income or assets to avoid legitimate tax liability.

Ohhh your not?

Quote from: pwi on May 17, 2013, 05:28:11 AM

I have no issue with hiding assets to get much needed assistance. It sucks to have to bend the rules in order to survive.

They are viewed as the same crime. So yeah, another stupid person on the forums can you both leave, people like this make me so sick.

Gweedo; first let me say that I respect you immensely as a contributor to the discussion at Bitcointalk.org. Your insight has been very valuable to me.

Allow me to state, from experience mind you, that it is a luxury that few can afford; to have legal tax and asset shelters such as SEPs, HSAs, Roth's and the like. No one ever looks down in on a fellow that buries a handsome sum in his SEP to avoid taxation. It is admirable to max out a Health Savings Account in a tax deferred/free manner. Roth's are an awesome vehicle for retirement for those that are not self-employed. That emergency fund we are cautioned to keep in case of disaster makes us feel safe. All the while still having the means to pay a fellow several thousand dollars per year (100% deduction too) to see to it that the wealth that was so hard fought for remains with its rightful owner.

I certainly took this for granted. I wondered how less fortunate people could be so ignorant. Then some real shit happened at a very young age that shattered the foundation on which I had built my beliefs. Life changing events happened that I'd wish upon no one.

What happens when the real world has different plans for the nest egg, and all those things are cashed out to pay for necessities? Necessities like food, gas, premiums, medical bills, housing, electricity, and transportation. Now there is no money for life saving healthcare AND food, no funds for rent/mortgage AND the water/electricity bill that accompanies it, no more health insurance, no more annuity, no more nest egg. In some cases, no more wife or family to lean on for support. What now?

I'll tell you what now. What everTF is necessary to survive. If that means selling a car at a loss to a friend so there isn't one in paper; you do it. If it means you mustn't have over $500 in assets (when you only have enough to get thru 45 frugal days); you make it look like you have <$500. Otherwise you go without lifesaving medication and care.

Walk a mile in another man's moccasins before casting harsh judgment upon his actions my friend. I'm still fiscally conservative and think most of the programs the OP and myself desperately need should be eliminated. It would allow for those that have extra to lend a hand to those in need instead of being forced to help those that repeatedly refuse to help themselves. The current system just doesn't allow for it.

Would you rather a young man die in poverty and sickness, and a more mature gentleman go without basic needs in order to care for his wife?

Regardless your answer, I'd still choose you for escrow to sell my PS3 to help pay for the next round of oncologist visits while I wait on a response from Medicaid.