Re: Does Binance do some diligence upon listing? SONM listing
Here we see that SONM kept SebastianJU name during and after the ICO, not asking the translated threads to update the information and all of them were announcing him as official escrow in their respective OP's, including the russian thread while SONM is a russian project (he is still there announced as escrow):
Mы бyдeм иcпoльзoвaть эcкpoy c пpимeнeниeм кoшeлькa c мyльтипoдпиcью, чтoбы oбecпeчить бeзoпacнocть вcex yчacтникoв ICO.
SebastianJU, лeгeндapный bitcointalk эcкpoy, пpeдocтaвит cвoю ycлyгy эcкpoy кaк для SONM pre-ICO, тaк и для ICO.
Bce cpeдcтвa pre-ICO и ICO бyдyт зaчиcлeны нa eгo кoшeлeк эcкpoy.
Кypc oбмeнa тoкeнoв SNM нa ICO cocтaвляeт 1 ETH = 2824 SNM
Nous utiliserons un escrow avec un portefeuille multisignature pour assurer la sécurité de tous les participants de l'ICO.
SebastianJU, Lescrow légendaire de bitcointalk, fournira son service d'entiercement à la fois pour la SONM preICO et l'ICO.
Tous les fonds pré-ICO et ICO seront collectés dans son portefeuille de lescrow
Le taux de change de SNM sera 1 ETH = 606 SNM 1 ETH = 2824 SNM.
Useremo un escrow con wallet multisignature per dare sicurezza a tutti i partecipanti della ICO .
SebastianJU, Il legendary bitcointalk escrow, provvede al servizio di escrow per entrambi SONM pre ICO e ICO.
Tutti di fondi sia della pre ICO che ICO saranno raccolti nel wallet dellescrow.
ICO SNM tokens exchange sarà di 1 ETH = 606 SNM.
Wir werden einen Treuhänder mit Multisignaturenwallets nutzen, um die Sicherheit für alle ICO Teilnehmer zu gewährleisten.
SebastianJU, der legendäre Bitcointalk Treuhänder, wird seinen Service für die SONM preICO und die Haupt-ICO anbieten.
Alle gesammelten preICO und ICO Überweisungen werden auf sein Treuhänderkonto überwiesen.
Die ICO SNM Tokenaustauschratee wird 1 ETH für 606 SNM sein.
Usaremos un depósito de garantía con cartera multi-firma para garantizar la seguridad de todos los participantes en la ICO.
SebastianJU, el legendario depósito de escrow de bitcointalk proporcionará su servicio de fideicomiso tanto para el preICO como el ICO de SONM.
Todos los fondos de la preICO y de la ICO se guardarán en su cartera de fideicomisos.
El tipo de cambio de la ICO de SNM será 1 ETH = 2424 SNM.
Usaremos escrow(garantia) com carteira de multi-assinatura para garantir a segurança de todos os participantes da ICO.
SebastianJU, o escrow legendary(rank) do bitcointalk, fornecerá seu serviço de escrow tanto para a Pré-ICO quanto para a ICO da SONM.
Todos os fundos da Pré-ICO e da ICO serão coletados em sua carteira de garantia.
Os tokens SNM durante a ICO terão uma razão de 1 ETH = 606 SNM.
I can't prove but it is very suggestive that they erased his name of the english thread very close to few hours before the ICO, SebastianJU was assumed to be the escrow by everybody there and SONM team didn't communicate this change at any point before the ICO, still keeping in the thread the ICO would be using escrows -- this claim being kept during and after ICO, then erased.
The message above was a few hours before the ICO. See the screenshot below.
NO ESCROW ?? NO SAFETY ? invest at your own RISK !!!!
Mы бyдeм иcпoльзoвaть эcкpoy c пpимeнeниeм кoшeлькa c мyльтипoдпиcью, чтoбы oбecпeчить бeзoпacнocть вcex yчacтникoв ICO.
SebastianJU, лeгeндapный bitcointalk эcкpoy, пpeдocтaвит cвoю ycлyгy эcкpoy кaк для SONM pre-ICO, тaк и для ICO.
Bce cpeдcтвa pre-ICO и ICO бyдyт зaчиcлeны нa eгo кoшeлeк эcкpoy.
Кypc oбмeнa тoкeнoв SNM нa ICO cocтaвляeт 1 ETH = 2824 SNM
Nous utiliserons un escrow avec un portefeuille multisignature pour assurer la sécurité de tous les participants de l'ICO.
SebastianJU, Lescrow légendaire de bitcointalk, fournira son service d'entiercement à la fois pour la SONM preICO et l'ICO.
Tous les fonds pré-ICO et ICO seront collectés dans son portefeuille de lescrow
Le taux de change de SNM sera
Useremo un escrow con wallet multisignature per dare sicurezza a tutti i partecipanti della ICO .
SebastianJU, Il legendary bitcointalk escrow, provvede al servizio di escrow per entrambi SONM pre ICO e ICO.
Tutti di fondi sia della pre ICO che ICO saranno raccolti nel wallet dellescrow.
ICO SNM tokens exchange sarà di 1 ETH = 606 SNM.
Wir werden einen Treuhänder mit Multisignaturenwallets nutzen, um die Sicherheit für alle ICO Teilnehmer zu gewährleisten.
SebastianJU, der legendäre Bitcointalk Treuhänder, wird seinen Service für die SONM preICO und die Haupt-ICO anbieten.
Alle gesammelten preICO und ICO Überweisungen werden auf sein Treuhänderkonto überwiesen.
Die ICO SNM Tokenaustauschratee wird 1 ETH für 606 SNM sein.
Usaremos un depósito de garantía con cartera multi-firma para garantizar la seguridad de todos los participantes en la ICO.
SebastianJU, el legendario depósito de escrow de bitcointalk proporcionará su servicio de fideicomiso tanto para el preICO como el ICO de SONM.
Todos los fondos de la preICO y de la ICO se guardarán en su cartera de fideicomisos.
El tipo de cambio de la ICO de SNM será 1 ETH = 2424 SNM.
Usaremos escrow(garantia) com carteira de multi-assinatura para garantir a segurança de todos os participantes da ICO.
SebastianJU, o escrow legendary(rank) do bitcointalk, fornecerá seu serviço de escrow tanto para a Pré-ICO quanto para a ICO da SONM.
Todos os fundos da Pré-ICO e da ICO serão coletados em sua carteira de garantia.
Os tokens SNM durante a ICO terão uma razão de 1 ETH = 606 SNM.
I can't prove but it is very suggestive that they erased his name of the english thread very close to few hours before the ICO, SebastianJU was assumed to be the escrow by everybody there and SONM team didn't communicate this change at any point before the ICO, still keeping in the thread the ICO would be using escrows -- this claim being kept during and after ICO, then erased.
(...)
So the ICO is NOT escrowed anymore. The invested funds will be held by the SONM team totally. I can not provide any safety from now on and I need to take my name from the safety sign of the SONM ICO. Just to make clear that I will have no access nor control about invested funds.
So the ICO is NOT escrowed anymore. The invested funds will be held by the SONM team totally. I can not provide any safety from now on and I need to take my name from the safety sign of the SONM ICO. Just to make clear that I will have no access nor control about invested funds.
The message above was a few hours before the ICO. See the screenshot below.
NO ESCROW ?? NO SAFETY ? invest at your own RISK !!!!
WAY too many red flags at this point. You've been warned
I've been following this project for weeks and had planed on investing this morning. I had my wallet loaded up, but the escrow insanity was the final straw and I won't be investing.
I'm out.
I've been following this project for weeks and had planed on investing this morning. I had my wallet loaded up, but the escrow insanity was the final straw and I won't be investing.
- The interview videos are unprofessional and give vague details about the project, along with uncomfortable silences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IewRkEv6IHQ
- The marketing videos promise the world on a platter with next to no details (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS-BxuVRyy0). Huge pans of the world but no substance.
- The aforementioned association with https://icopromo.com . I hate asking this but why are so many huge ICOs coming out of Russia?
- The weird and seemingly uncaring attitude toward pre-ico people. The math just didn't add up and it seemed sloppy
- PULLING THE ESCOW. My god, having 3 owners of the company hold the escrow keys IS NOT AN ESCROW. Doing it behind the back of a trusted escrow and the users is the biggest red flag I can think of
- The responses to being found out regarding the escrow are unprofessional and unconvincing.
- The IMMEDIATE posts of vague support, also in broken english, after anyone posts valid points of concern.
- My conclusion: These guys want to make millions, spend a few months to a year half-assed building a platform while funneling funds, then suddenly will run out of money. No one will know why, and they'll be really "apologetic", but our money will be gone.
I'm out.