Quote from: t13hydra on May 19, 2013, 09:58:43 PM

Quote from: blackarrow on May 19, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

I think this list encourages fraud.

There are only two companies in your list that have actually shipped:

BlackArrow and BitFountain.

The others:

KNCMiner - science fiction story, they have not shipped anything they do not even have pictures of their products.
t13hydra, terrahash, ryepdx, burnin - rely on avalon ASICs which have not yet been produced.
Butterfly labs - have taken orders of millions of dollars, have not shipped in 1 year, most likely a fraud.

Our company has tried to purchase 30000 IC from Avalon. The law in China is to sign a contract to purchase the merchandise. We asked them for this and they gave us a bogus address in Beijing and confessed that they do not have a company. For this reason I would be very careful regarding the Avalon ASICs.

You're right, BlackArrow. I'm also concerned of Avalon chips actually shipping or not. I guess wi will find out soon enough. On the other hand, why don't you provide ASICs? I have found a book dated baxk to 2002 on how ro build ASICs for SHA-256 for security applications. If i would have a good supplier for the chips, i would shurely not provide group buy for some phantom chips tgat are not even in production yet. I know TSMC will provide them, but will Avalon forward them to us? Or at least order them... Let's do something here. What would it take to ahve asics? 6-7 months? What does it taje to build LTC asics? FPGA and a piece of DDR3 memory? Let's do it.

Thank you, FCTaiChi for the list. At least i know where i stand. I will also be providing lead time as soon as i have the Klondike final design and some money arrangements with the factory.

Regards, Steve

Hmmm, its concerning esp with fact that they have an contract with TMSC. Maybe some other intermediatte compnay actaly have a contract with tmsc? Who knows....