Quote from: myrkul on May 20, 2013, 09:55:59 PM

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Quote from: myrkul on May 20, 2013, 02:47:32 PM

Quote from: ktttn on May 20, 2013, 10:13:19 AM

*Deep breath*
A factory takeover is always a peaceful, organized process if the profiteer being deposed has the good sense to gtfo, and doesn't call in the riot cops, instead opting to let the rightful owners, the workers, take over.

All right, we'll start with the easy one.

What makes them the "rightful" owners? There are only two ways to legitimately acquire property:
Original appropriation (homesteading), or voluntary purchase.

Secondary appropriation, or "squatting" is only valid on abandoned property. Certainly you're not claiming that the factory owner (or shareholders) abandoned the factory?

Use determines utility. Who uses the factory? Workers? They own it.

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utility

The state of being useful, profit-able, or beneficial.

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ownership

the relation of an owner to the thing possessed; possession with the right to transfer possession to others.

Those definitions don't match.

Spot on. Thus, capitalism is wasteful of human life and resources. When an owner doesnt use a thing, the thing is defacto abandoned.