Quote from: ruggedman_dan on May 22, 2013, 07:02:01 PM

I do hope they do the right thing and pay back those that they owe.

But on another note, why is your ignore button gold?

Quote from: MPOE-PR on February 10, 2013, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on February 10, 2013, 03:06:33 PM

It sounds like Erik fucked up. I think he should just take responsibility for the mistake, apologize, and move on. This will damage his reputation for further issues.

It's funny when people with no shred of a reputation are discussing the reputations of others.

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on February 10, 2013, 03:13:37 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on February 10, 2013, 03:06:33 PM

It sounds like Erik fucked up. I think he should just take responsibility for the mistake, apologize, and move on. This will damage his reputation for further issues.

No one messed up anything, and afaik most investors are happy as clams with SDICE. Maybe some are just pissed they don't have the capital and awareness to be agile in this market?

Either way, this turned into a boring troll slap fight.

Basically the whole story here is this: back in the days of the Global Scam Exchange, an assortment of scammers and idiots which I won't bother to name were very happy because a) they got to act as if they actually were investors, bankers and so forth and b) they made BTC. Bona fide investors were not at all happy, because they lost oodles of BTC. The conversion process used is particularly ineffective, for every Bitcoin scammed from investors people like Meni Rosenfeld, Kludge, or Patrick Harnett made maybe a cent or less. Some people did make a decent fraction, some still mine to this day on the farms their dupes bought them.

Then MPEx came to the scene, and the gravy train abruptly halted on all scores. Not only did the various scammers get to be called out and quite publicly at that, not only did dysfunctional "business models" get laughed out of town, not only are the idiots under the daily pressure of being called idiots, with ample and incontrovertible documentation of every move they make, but - worst pain of all - the investors are nowhere in sight. Because given a chance, an investor would rather be an investor than a dupe. Some "bond offering" that could collect 40k BTC no questions asked last spring and promptly evaporate half of the shareholder equity within six months can barely take in enough to cover outgoings this spring. Of course this burns the underclass of scammers & idiots: they don't get free BTC and attention anymore? Bawwwww.

They have correctly pinned the cause of their current plight on MPEx generally, on MP personally and as far as the messaging goes, on me. It's a fact: the reason they're fucked atm is exactly MPEx, MP and, at least on this forum, me. They are incorrectly trying to remedy this by attacking a combination of the three. Unfortunately for all of them it doesn't really matter how much time and effort they expend in the ultimately doomed attempt to convince "the public" that their executioner "is evil". In fact the only probable result of all that expenditure is their more thorough discreditation.

To quote MP himself,

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And more generally, a notice to all the scumbags circling BTC : I don't care that you're poor, I don't care if you're desperate, I don't care if you're 'Ndrangheta or the Gambinos or the Bonanos or the Russians or whoever the fuck else. Pack it and move. This is your only warning, and quite frankly I have no ideea why warnings are even necessary. Bitcoin is not for idiots. That means you.

That's the whole story. Idiots and scammers can no longer make it in BTC. The days when they had the run of the town are over, and are never coming back. Professionalism, competence, obedience and discipline are the values of Bitcoin in 2013. We're done dicking around with this toy based "on maffs" where "like, man, everything's possible right?"

Time to get to work.