Quote from: XinXan on October 02, 2017, 11:37:15 AM

Quote from: classicsucks on October 02, 2017, 07:05:15 AM

Quote from: gekon on October 02, 2017, 12:20:04 AM

Bitcoin Cash pros: A big argument for Bitcoin Cash is that because it allows for much larger blocks than Bitcoin Core, this will allow greater throughput (~24tx/sec max) & less backlog as well as lower fees. This lets Bitcoin Cash scale more and their argument would be it is more useful for peer to peer, for commerce and just everything. Additionally it does not include Segregated Witness (SegWit) (which some view as a positive since some see SegWit as less secure or having legal issues).

Bitcoin Cash cons: Against Bitcoin Cash we have arguments like it is more centralized due to small less well known development team and due to fewer people running Bitcoin Cash full nodes and higher cost to run a full node. It does not (yet) solve transaction malleability (SegWit) and so existing Lightning Network (LN) implementations won't be run on top of Bitcoin Cash at this time.

Bitcoin Core pros: Established large development team, robust network of nodes (less centralized), transaction malleability fix (SegWit) allows current Lighting Network to run on top of it. SegWit allows for double the existing transaction throughput of the current Bitcoin Core limit of ~3tx/sec to ~6tx/sec max once enough people are using SegWit style transactions.

Bitcoin Core cons: Even with SegWit transaction throughput is limited. Centralized control of development from Blockstream and very small group of prominent devs that effectively have control over changes. Some toxic developers. SegWit some believe is less secure or can lead to problems (this is of course highly disputed). Reliance on unproven solutions like LN to increase throughput/scale beyond block size limits.
(Note also that the Bitcoin Core chain may undergo a further hard fork later this year when SegWit2x forks off that chain. But no time here to describe those implications.)

A fair assessment.

But let's add to Bitcoin Cash Pros:
* 1162x lower fees than Kore BTC at the time of writing (source https://cashvscore.com/).
* Rapid adoption by exchanges and businesses
* resurrection of all old BTC use cases that were killed by high fees and long confirmation times (Satoshi Dice, reddit tipping, micropayments, are back etc.)

Also I think you're leaning too hard on transaction malleability. It was used by Mt Gox as an excuse for the stolen coins there, really they were just stolen. I haven't seen a report of malleability resulting in theft or losses. Nobody accepts zero-conf payments.

I know this forum is not a particularly favorable environment for BCH. But let's please just try to be honest and objective.

Ok, that's true for now, the fees are lower but are they going to be lower forever? Obviously exchanges adopted bitcoin cash but that's not a pro compared to bitcoin itself. It's true that there is a fight between bitcoin and bitcoin cash and both sides will support their coin no matter what.

Fees could always rise based on demand. All things being equal, I would expect that the Bitcoin Cash fees would be a minimum of 8x cheaper than Bitcoin due to the 8x larger block space. Since BTC's fees rose astronomically due to the artificial blocksize limit, I suspect that BCH fees will remain 200-500x cheaper than BTC for the next year or so.