Quote from: bensam1231 on October 07, 2017, 02:28:16 AM

Quote from: DextroFree on October 06, 2017, 01:27:43 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on October 06, 2017, 12:53:25 AM

Quote from: DextroFree on October 05, 2017, 12:36:46 PM

Quote from: sp_ on October 05, 2017, 06:38:59 AM

When ppl spread my work for free, ppl won't donate anymore because they just use my stolen work to boost their profit. When I release #3, the stolen work is not profitable anymore, and the only option is to donate or steal my work again. If they steal again, I get 2% of the profit from everyone who mine with my stolen miner.

Why do you bitch about 2%.?

I release a faster miner, that will boost your profit, and my profit. It's a win win both for me and the honest donators, and loosing game for the scammers who stole and published my work.

It's funny you are complaining about stealing...

The problem it not that you are selling your mods (you can call i donating all day long, but you are just selling it). You are absolutely right, that you are able to sell your work.

The problem is, your work is based on code under the GPL license (because it seems you are unable to start it from scratch), with require you to give access to your code if requested (which has been done multiple times). And you have to do this, even if you would give your code away for free. We can be sure you know that stuff, you just ignore it because you think nobody will ever get you.

So the "thieves" steal from someone who violated the GPL license for years.

This is just stupid fucking rhetoric to get things for free. You aren't going to 'force' him to release his work for free. If push comes to shove, he, just like a lot of other developers that make their own miners stop making them. Then big farms who can afford to hire actual developers get easy high performance miners with no competition.

You lose, public developers lose, and private farms win. Go educate yourself before you make fucking retarded knee jerk statements. GPL licensing has absolutely no baring what so ever here. No one is going to take SP to court, no one is losing lots of money because of this (except big farms), and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter.

People use whatever rational they want to justify their actions. Only thing GPL licensing is helping in this case is megafarms and I'm guessing your two rigs don't qualify for that status.

So you say it's ok to violate rules if enough people profit from it?
Why not rob a bank and give the money to the poor? Oh, because robbery is not allowed? But hey, if you don't do it, only a few rich people will profit from the money!
Just make sure you aren't seen while robbing the bank, so nobody will take you to court! It's so simple!

But i agree with you, people use whatever rational they want to justify their actions, you gave a good example.

It's alright to violate rules when they generally don't benefit the greater good. Furthermore no one gets hurt when people violate them in this case. It doesn't help the greater good and it doesn't hurt anyone except egos. You aren't murdering people for profit here. And those that would violate them regardless are the people that will profit behind the scenes.

This isn't robbing a bank. This isn't taking someone elses money. You can take your perceived moral high ground, eat a dick, and remain poor. As long as it helps you sleep at night. People don't put anything into context anymore, they just take it and run way out into left field. I'm guessing GPL violations means I'm dropping sacks of kittens into a river while laughing, right?

You can't even make a argument about morality here besides there being a rule in place. Moral high ground is actually taking the code, making the best miner possible, then distributing it to everyone possible (dev fee). Flat fee is the next closest thing. SP is literally helping you and all you want to do is bitch about it and then bitch about a fee, then bitch about a flat fee, then bitch about GPL. It's not going to make it free and it reduces the chances of him (or any developer) making a miner in the first place. People who can, once again, hire their own talent will do so and fuck you while you're pretending they don't exist and stay happy that no GPL violates are visible.

Quote from: garytheasshole on October 06, 2017, 09:34:47 AM

Oh yeah, sp is a modern day robin hood who steals from the open sources and gives it to the little miner. Get your head out of the sand man. He probably sells his mods after he's bored with them on his +100 gpu farm. And no little miner with 5-10 GPUs can profit from 2-3% speed increase, so big farms always win.

Pretty much. He's not stealing. The work is still there. YOU can still use the open source miner. You will be violating nothing and you can maintain the air of superiority of being a law abiding citizen. You know what though? That's not the way cryptos work. People with money will take that open source miner, they will make it better, they wont release it, and you'll never hear about it. Then 'why is this coin making so much less then other coins, why would anyone mine this?!?!'... I'm sure you've never thought that before... Hmmm, I wonder... Hmmm...

SP doesn't have a 100+ GPU farm and that's not big anyway. That's a small-medium size setup. IF you were talking 100+ rigs, that's different, 100 GPUs is not. SP likes bragging a lot, so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

Funny thing is you CAN use a GPL licensed piece of software and improve it yourself and use it without violating a GPL. So in your example that's actually perfectly legal. It's the reselling it part without the source code that isn't. That's what makes shit like this obscene, because that's what big farms ARE doing and you're bitching about one of the few developers that actually competes with it. If SP can improve it, other developers can too.

Yeah I'm also sure big farms would never benefit from a miner that increases speed by 30% compared to 3% either. Something... something... percent... something... XD

Quote from: zamans98 on October 06, 2017, 06:06:38 PM

why are u ranting/whining here? Isn't that obvious u paid for the spMOD and pissed off when it was leaked?

17 year old kids don't even have a place to talk to grownups. Oh, wait, I'm sure the 98 in your name has no bearing on your birth year.

Also, two pages before the post you responded to what I wrote I mentioned that I already got my use out of the bitcore miner and told SP he should release it as a fee to everyone. So, no, you're unequivocally wrong, go climb back in your moms womb.

interesting conclusion,and fight like a kid (hinting mom's womb), so i take you are retarded than you sounds. LOL, really, i see better assumptions made, but you win with your retarded assumptions.

Grow a pair of balls, ensure they are loaded with sufficient semen.