Sheep vs. Wolf

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

The thread has gone off topic.

No, no, no, it has stayed on topic. Just because you disagree with my hypothesis, doesnt mean my posts are off-topic. That is a disingenuous claim. Disagreement is not proof.

Why hasn't any government stopped Bitcoin? Because the Zionists are pulling the strings in government and because Bitcoin was designed to be superior to the jurisdiction of any single nation-state (but the Zionists pulling strings and preventing any potential nation-state cooperation to stop Bitcoin will also be a factor). The Zionists want Bitcoin to succeed because it serves several aims:

Its creative destruction of the nation-state central banks with themselves as the central bank in control of Bitcoin at the end game.
Its a marvellous globalized tracking device.
It helps them eliminate cash, which is difficult for them to control. Bitcoin they will control and can turn off anyones number precisely as predicted in Revelation.
Given their control of the only two 14mn ASIC fabs in the world (via proxy as the financiers), they are indirectly gaining the seigniorage of issuing Bitcoin (mining).
It fools all the useful idiot nerds into supporting them.
It provides a system for them to more efficiently launder their drug and other illicit activities money and funding of their operatives all over the world.
Provides a way via unregulated speculation and offshoots such as ICOs for them to promote self-incrimination of wide swaths of the very people who might otherwise be able to defeat them.
Gives them an alternative to the barbaric, non-electronic relic gold, as they crash and reset the global monetary system circa 2020 to 2024.
Its a Hegelian dialectic leverage against the nation-states which they want to force into submission to a world government.

Did you not listen in the videos I linked for you of the power the Zionists have even at the local government level in the USA.

I will be editing this post and adding more information to make my case stronger.

Mainly Im disappointed that you just declared youre correct without retorting the vast number of details I have linked to both in my past discussions with @dinofelis, my logic about Satoshis necessary priorities, and the details in the videos about Mossad implementing the 9/11 slaughter.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Satoshi did not choose to "enable" ASICBoost, that is corruption and conspiracy.

Disagree. I already explained that due to the careful analysis he put into hashing and interaction of different hashes in the double-hashing scenarios in Bitcoin, he was quite aware of the weakness of SHA256 in the proof-of-work context. I delved into this in great detail in my discussions with @dinofelis which I provided links to. If you are unwilling to read and comprehend those discussions, then I suggest youre just an ignorant bystander.

For you to argue otherwise, is (sorry to say so frankly) absolutely asinine. Satoshi would not have released a system where he had not analysed this is great and excruciating detail the hash function for proof-of-work as that is the cornerstone of his invention. The hallmarks of his work and precise speech prove his fanatical attention to detail.

Please do not waste my scarce time with dribble (drool or drivel). I expect a more well researched reply from you. I do not wish to be denigrating or unappreciative, but I have do not have time if you are not even willing to study my hypothesis in great detail.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

You have taken a natural exploit, which is inevitable of all human systems, and have construed it into such a way as to portray it as a desired choice. There are many exploits that are possible and are only discovered by the desire and determination of an exploiter in most cases. In this case, it was discovered by someone who patented it for their financial benefit to be licensed to miners. That is acceptable and his discovery gave public notice to the community that such an exploit was possible.

Youre apparently inept in the math of Probability & Statistics theory, or in correctly applying the initial conditions to the math.

Theres not multiple possible random cases of low-hanging fruit exploit discoveries on proof-of-work. Every sufficiently astute expert who has studied hash functions (including my deep study of them in 2013/4 when I was trying to design an ASIC-resistant PoW algorithm) knows about the sort of weakness that was exploited for ASICBOOST. In fact, I remember noting the structural peculiarity of SHA2 before ASICBOOST was announced as I independently saw there was a weakness that could perhaps be exploited but at the time I did not pursue it because of my health condition and because I had so many different priorities for things to work on and it seemed outside my capitalization to capitalize on any way.

Its impossible that Satoshi did not study that weakness of that type of hash function construction. Absolutely impossible. Anyone who claims otherwise just really hasnt studied the issue.

When one studies hash functions they become aware of the construction types such as MerkleDamgård construction, wide-pipe, MD-compliant padding, etc..

Satoshi knew damn well that he was employing a cryptographic hash function in a paradigm that cryptographic hash functions are not normally designed for, i.e. that the cryptographic properties assured for hash functions would not necessary be sufficient. So of course he would study very carefully looking for weakness thereof. Its impossible for someone of his (teams collective) intellect to not find the ASICBOOST weakness. I suggest you ask Daniel Bernstein to study this in great detail and then ask for his conclusion. I am confident he will conclude the same as me.

Its re-discovery was quite unremarkable, inevitable and predictable.

Remember this. Things that look random to someone with a 140 IQ or non-expert, can be blatantly obvious to a 180 IQ or an expert in that field. Be very careful about your bias to due your mistaking ignorance as randomness. (the linked post is mine where Im essentially mapping out mathematically what cognitive dissonance is)

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Personally, I would have preferred that he disclosed it in secret to the developers so that it could be patched prior to its wide spread use, but he chose to monetize it for himself, which is also acceptable because it follows the human game theory
aspect within Bitcoin. Sometimes, even non-direct participants of the Bitcoin system are bound by its designed theoretical constraints, and thus inadvertently make the full system stronger over time.

It was already too late when it was re-discovered, to change the proof-of-work algorithm. And the other fixes proposed (which involved SegWit) destroy Bitcoins security (if you analyse it holistically as Craig Wright explained).

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Satoshi did not intentionally desire centralization of the network, since if he did so, the experiment would have never reached a stage in which it would prove your overall argument. Your argument is incorrect because its basic premise will not bring about your future conclusion. In fact, it will do the opposite and allow a fully centralized world system to dominate over all flesh unabated and uncontested.

I am so disappointed in you. I thought you were a sophisticated and deep thinker.

Bitcoin can (economically) scale just fine. The centralization comes only when the Zionists are ready. They decide when.

Also you did not even pay attention that the centralization is only absolutely necessary (otherwise consensus will no longer converge) when the block reward declines near zero.

Man you did not even read the links I provided for you. Or you did not digest and assimilate them. I do not have time to spoon feed you.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

This is not acceptable and the actions today will circumvent the world government and its single world currency of tomorrow. By the nature of the Bitcoin system and it forking ability alone, it is contradictory to centralization and control, and thus
like the phoenix can not die and will continually be reborn after each attack.

There is no forking away from the economic majority. The economic majority is the Zionists, because the people being flocks of sheep instead of pack wolves hand that power vacuum to them. If 9/11 does not convince you of Satans power here on earth, there will be more amazing feats coming. Again until you watch the 9/11 videos I provided which make an extremely compelling case that what Mossad represents (not limited to just Mossad) is in control over every key aspect of the civilizations, then we really have nothing to discuss with each other. I can not debate a willingly ignorant person. Sorry. If youve studied everything and then can make specific refutations of detailed facts, then we can have a useful discussion.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Satoshi may not have been all knowing, but he was not a malicious instrument. All proxies are only given the information they directly need to perform their tasks at that time. Additional data for beyond the lifespan of the proxy is unnecessary
and discouraged.

If you believe Satoshi was a single person, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 06, 2017, 03:57:03 AM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 05, 2017, 06:52:10 PM

Satoshi placed the 1MB cap to prevent the full centralization and the ultimate collapse of the system, and this contradicts that his original intention was centralization. When he set the limit, he acknowledged that his original design could not properly function because technology that exploits will always outpace technology that advances. So, the system was placed into a cooldown state until it could be naturally rectified by time.

The 1MB cap does nothing to solve the centralization problem. Here is a portion of the blog post I am in the process of writing which refutes you. <<--- IMPORTANT

Irrelevant, and does not refute.

I made no statements that it solved the problem of mining centralization and only provided the answer of "1MB limit + Time = stabilization till natural balancing". Mining centralization is a normal development of human interaction in the Bitcoin
mining system, and thus can not be solved with programmed restraints since the devices exist in the physical world. Satoshi himself acknowledge that more efficient specialized devices would come about due to humanities' current interaction in the
system.

Please quote for me Satoshis writing about what you claim. I do not remember reading that.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

But as time progresses, any centralization reduces due to technological advances and knowledge. Thus, the longer Bitcoin survives, the more balanced it will become.

Lol. Its true that someone may invent an improvement (in fact I have and will release it soon), but that is not Bitcoin. We were talking about Bitcoin, not altcoins. Bitcoin can not copy my design.

But another factor that perhaps the Zionists win any way (because the people like yourself are sheep and thus empowered Satan), so even my better decentralized ledger may not help us avoid the end game of Revelation.

Youre a sheep because you refuse to review the evidence that Mossad did 9/11. You selfishly follow the other sheep who refuse to learn.

Im a wolf, a pack animal, not a flock animal.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 06, 2017, 03:57:03 AM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 05, 2017, 06:52:10 PM

Everything was planned out, and though there have been some hiccups along the way, it will ultimately help bring about Nash's Ideal Money as a side effect of its existence and success, but miner centralization and modern day Israel has no direct
importance/significance with the actual goal.

Afaics, youve been hoodwinked by the Zionists. If you really want to understand, then you must go watch the videos.

I have no interest in conspiracies or scapegoating.

Willfully refusing to learn is not an admirable trait.

Assigning derogatory labels (e.g. conspiracies or scapegoating) to something you have not studied is the epitome of a fool.

Its only by studying it and then refuting it that you can claim the high ground.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

Your belief that Zionists have anything to do with Bitcoin, means you do not know what happens to Zion during the time of the oppression that is to come. The people of Zion and the world who are forced into the wilderness and into the mountains will then understand Bitcoin's true purpose and that Satoshi was indeed a proven proxy. Though he was not perfect, and no proxies are, because of his success in his given task, many will endure and be found in the book of life.

My understanding is the Great Harlot are the banksters who end up with all the wealth on top the mountain in Israel. Afaik, the Zionists are not the citizens of Israel, but rather corrupters of the Israelites.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 06, 2017, 08:17:32 PM

your theological understanding is limited.

An unsubstantiated accusation is not proof.

Quote from: anonymous

I agree with AgentofCoins position in that exchange.

Based on refutation of which facts in my highly detailed thesis?

You and he both offered no factual argument. Just assertions. Whereas, I presented numerous facts and evidence.

What is the point of having a discussion with someone who ignores all the evidence?