Quote from: AyeYo on June 16, 2011, 11:16:32 AM

Yea, just keep playing the semantics game so that you never end up admitting the negatives of a free market.

Quick reality check:
Someone took their land and property BECAUSE someone else wanted to build a factory and employ people for next to nothing. The government didn't one day just up and take land from people at random, and then Happy Smilie Nice Company just happened to be passing by and see a nice empty piece of land to buy and establish a factory on. FIRST came the need for cheap labor. THEN came the interventionism by the US or whoever else to swing the local government's opinion, bribe them, kill them, or straight up invade and replace them, so that Happy Smilie Nice Company could come in and build its cheap labor factory. The US government is an acting agent of the corporations that control it, NOT the other way around. The local government that took the land is an agent of the US government that is an agent of the corporation that wanted the land. All roads lead back to greedy big business and money, NOT to the government. The goverment is merely one enabler along the way, it is NOT the root of the problem.

Well, not all the cases were like this, although this you explain would not surpirse me. But some places their own governments were fucking the people and the multinationals just went there to get cheap labour.

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Think again. What I just described is the end product of a free market. In a free market, the people with the money make the rules. The corporations of the world are the people with the money, so they will always make the rules, and their rules include controlling the government. The end result of unhindered capitalism is the people at the top owning and controlling everything, including governments.

This you are describing is what happens in a social-democracy. Political darwinism. In social-democracy the people with money can and do use it to screew the poor and the middle classes. If the government can not intervene or directly there is no government it can not happen.

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I guess you just can't see that your belief system is one of perpetual blame shifting for its many short comings. You can simply keep blaming all these short comings on the market not being free enoug. Because a 100% free market (as you define it) will never exist, you'll never have to face the music that your belief system simply doesn't work as you think it does in the real world.

You need a reality check and a history lesson.