Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 07, 2017, 11:10:07 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 07, 2017, 09:09:09 PM

So, outright dismissing Bitcoin and thinking that God is against it automatically because God has no need for it on earth or in heaven, it irrelevant to the actually argument at hand. The issue is not whether Bitcoin or money is good or bad, the issue was whether Bitcoin could provide a path of escape from the system that will come that is oppressive and all consuming.

Actually I agree with this and I had written many times over the past years, that I think Bitcoin would spawn an altcoin that will do what you say. And I believe possibly I am the one who is creating that altcoin. Certainly I am working on a decentralized ledger design which is revolutionary and different than proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. So well see what transpires.

Of course from a theological perspective, God could fool Satan very easily and use Satans own hand to create what God wants.

Yes, even Satan is a proxy of God.

So, if that proxy has rebelled by his own will or that of God's,
and is attempting to prove God to be invalid and unworthy of
admiration and love, ultimately God can turn his best malicious
ideas and device against him and his workings. That is possible
and thus why the rebellion will ultimately fail, which Satan already
knows, but is still bound to perform.

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 07, 2017, 11:10:07 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 07, 2017, 09:45:24 PM

The theory of the rapture contradicts the Judgment and Jesus's and the old testament prophet's teachings. The only humans who were allowed to be taken away prior to the Judgment were Elijah and Enoch. All others sleep till the Judgment. The rapture is not in theological conformance []

This crap is debated endlessly on the Internet and it doesnt matter any way, because it offers no testable prediction (you must rely on it purely on faith and with uncertain timing). What ever happens happens. Well find out when we get there.

Yes I agree, whatever happens will happen, and we will find out
eventually. But, I'm adding in the following because I assume some
will be upset I said the rapture is not real, so here is my reasoning
why I think such, for the record. It is not to be offensive, but for
considerations.

For theological elaboration: the rapture would in theory be a
selection of humans who God had determined should not proceed
through the Tribulations, as a special selective group. This is not
fair, and in order to prove that God is fair, loving, and just,
throughout existence and during the determination of the
judgments, all those who are living must go through the
process of Tribulation equally. No human is actually judged by
God or his proxies, until the time of the Judgment in front of the
whole world. The Rapture group would convey that there has
been a secret prejudgment. So, the rapture would be a
contradiction of God's plan to prove his validity in a public and
provable manner. It would mean God has partiality among his
children, which is not true. In fact, he loves his children so
much, he even gives them a roadmap and signs of the times,
which are devices that allow for provability at that future
appointed time.

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 07, 2017, 11:10:07 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on October 07, 2017, 09:45:24 PM

I believe I clearly stated that Bitcoin could be a path provided, that can exist outside of the One World System. Some people will be able to live through the "Antichrist's" reign, yet will not accept the mark. These are the people who will endure till the end, without blemish. Everything I am referring to is prior to the Son of Man returning. I never said anything about heaven, or money in heaven, or any other such ridiculousness.

So, you must ask yourself, how can these people survive in this oppressive world and not directly participate in that world? How will God provide for them, as he has always done? How will they buy and sell without conforming to the One World System? It is possible another system is provided for them? These are the question I ask.

Indeed we thought you were referring to the end game of it all. Now I understand youre referring to the utility of earthly apparatus while were still stuck on earth. I have no objections other than it doesnt necessarily have to be Bitcoin.

Yes, I am talking about the physical world and would never
intentionally contradict what is written in the book. I am only
attempting to unify and bring logic to both the Bitcoin system
and the Bible, which may be a prophetic device of the future,
and thus Bitcoin''s existence in conjunction with that possibility,
must be ascertained and rectified prior to the events that will
occur. All possibilities must be entertained.

I am glad we have found common ground in some areas.