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Quote from: protokol on October 06, 2017, 11:57:19 AM

There's a gaping hole in your logic. With empty space, we can compare it to "non-empty space": We can see how photons, atoms or subatomic particles react in an environment of "empty space" and an environment containing matter. Therefore we can obtain actual data, and look at the differences between the two environments.

You simply don't understand what you are talking about. "Photons, atoms or subatomic particles" are an environment of matter as well as energy. No matter contains matter within the essence of itself. All matter shares empty space. Empty space contains matter. You really need to brush up on your basic science.

Quote from: protokol on October 06, 2017, 11:57:19 AM

With a god, such a comparison is logically impossible. We can't compare an environment with, or without a god, because only one scenario is logically possible.

An atom resides within empty space. There is empty space within the atom, between the electrons, and between the electrons and the nucleus. Empty space is within, without, and "flowing" through all material and energy.

The only difference with God is, He even made the empty space. So, we absolutely can use the relationships between photons, atoms or subatomic particles in empty space to prove that God exists.

Quote from: protokol on October 06, 2017, 11:57:19 AM

Therefore, scientific proof of a god cannot be compared to evidence, or proof, of "empty space".

Your move...

Therefore, scientific proof for God absolutely can be compared to evidence, or proof, for "empty space".

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Too bad you dont even understand entropy and too bad your ''proof'' is self refuting (everything has a cause, yet god doesn't?)

You are missing the point. It isn't my proof. It is standard scientific proof that all scientists know about, if they think about it for a moment. But you haven't provided any proof for or against the existence of God. It's beginning to look like you don't really know anything scientific at all.

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I sure have, first of all by proving that you don't even know the laws you are trying to use to prove god existence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684

Links that you haven't been able to respond to a part from your simplistic ''circular argument'' bullshit because saying everything has a cause but god doesn't isn't stupid, right badecker?

I am not going to take the time to run down your links. Why not? Because anybody who is a true scientist knows that science theory is not fact, and that much of what you link to is science theory at best.

As I have told you, cause and effect are for this universe. God is from without. Things like cause and effect don't necessarily act on Him. But, even if C&E was a part of God, there is no way of knowing anything about it. After all, we can't even track an atom or molecule of the wind as it travels around the globe, or wherever. Since we are so remote, why would you even think that we can track even a little of the nature of God?

Except for you, that is. You understand that God exists, but you continue to deny Him. Kinda ignorant of you. I can understand how your lack of intelligence must continually ask questions about a God we will scientifically never know anything about.

So, it would only be by the sheerest C&E "accidents" if you happened to become the one who turned out to be the scientist who could track a specific molecule of the wind. LOL.

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''As I have told you, cause and effect are for this universe. God is from without.'' Prove it, you haven't proved that god is from outside the unvierse.
''Things like cause and effect don't necessarily act on Him.'' Why not
''a true scientist knows that science theory is not fact'' A true scientist knows that nothing is 100% a fact but a theory gets really damn close to it, you are not a real scientist, you are a buffoon who doesn't even understand his own arguments.