Quote from: empowering on October 09, 2017, 11:58:13 AM

Quote from: MsCollec on October 09, 2017, 06:51:29 AM

RPX statement is weak asf.

A lot of people bought NEO due to the ico and now you're screwed. Accepting NEO for the ico is a pump attempt and screwing up the ICO time-stamp is another attempt to force people to dump the neo for loss.

If you bought $50k worth of NEO for the ico, you already lost $10,000 and this shit will dump to $20 or less by the time you got your refund.

Red Pulse Team should have open source the contract code and be precise about the time stamp.

Give block 1445025 their RPX token.

Hmmm... I think maybe they should give people in the first 10 seconds (?) their tokens- to take into account the timestamp.

The refund timing issue -is an issue I am not saying it isn't...

BUT ....using logic

Red Pulse doesn't care how much OUR NEO are worth - they sold 1000 RPX for 1 NEO and they did NOT SELL 1000 RPX for $34 !! what the price of OUR NEO is ,is of no concern to them...if you sent 100 NEO - you are owed 100 NEO !! nota USD amount!

Let me put it to you another way say you sent 100 NEO at $35 (worth $3500) so you could buy 10,000RPX and transaction failed and you are due a refund - say there was a 2 day refund delay...

Say that during those two days NEO went UP in price from $35 to £55

What would you expect your refund to be ? (apart from speedy)

Would you expect back 100 NEO with a value of $5500 ( I WOULD,if the sale was RPX for NEO only with no dollar exchange)

........or would you expect only approx 63.636363 NEO coins back ? i.e 63.636363 NEO @ $55=$3500? this is what you invested right? so tough luck you are out of 36.37 NEO?

YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS !! the fact you were paying with NEO at a 1000 RPX to 1 NEO ratio was perfectly clear !!

Also ... whilst RPX don't care about the dollar value of OUR NEO - they sure do care about the dollar value of THEIR NEO! They raised funds in NEO and have no advantage gainedby NEO going down in price at all, so I do not buy the pump and dump theory (also the rest of the markets have also pulled back)

There are a few people, in the first few seconds of the 2nd hour, that possibly could argue for the tokens.. or at least the speediest of refunds.

Thing is no one is guaranteed RPX and no one has the RIGHT to RPX or any token during an ICO - you can think otherwise but you will only be upsetting yourself Wink

The thing that is your right is to have any refunds processed in a timely and reasonable fashion

All the newbie accounts popping up to have a whinge .... Cool

JUST TO BE CLEAR ! REFUND POLICY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC FROM THE START AND LAID OUT IN ADVANCE HOW
WHEN AND IF A REFUND WOULD BE NECESSARY !! THIS SHOULD BE A TAKE AWAY FOR ALL SMART CONTRACT CREATORS

(ps REFUNDS TO THOSE WHO GOT CAUGHT OUT BY TIMESTAMP SHOULD BE PROCESSED FIRST AND IN VERY SHORT ORDER!)

(pps Crypto hint - don't sell at a loss - use foresight and mitigate your own risks and losses)

I was literally 16 seconds from getting red pulse. I waited on purpose 1 minute and 30 seconds - time stamp was 1401:44. This whole thing is bullshit and they don't even have fortitude to apologize for not taking this into consideration in their directions, authored by them!

And apparently he was asked if it was block time or real time - his response real time. There's a slack screen shot of his conversation, which makes it worse!