Quote from: notbatman on October 10, 2017, 04:04:46 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2015, 02:50:02 PM

One of the standards of the past, that shows that the earth isn't flat, but that it is rather spherical, is that of sailing ships.

On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon. As the ship approaches, more of the masts become visible. Finally, as the ship is reasonably close, the whole of the ship that is above water becomes visible.

This is the best reply. You can do the same thing at sunset over a clear horizon; when you squat down the sun appears to have sety but once you stand up you'll see more of the sun, thus proving the earth is round because your height is enough to allow you to see further over the horizon...

Moron, the horizon rises to eye level increasing the distance you can view objects. Anybody who belives that ships sail over the curve is a total fucking retard.

Dingbat. The horizon never rises to meet anything. The moon rises. The sun rises. The horizon just sits there.

Hang a plumb line. Then, stand and look straight ahead, horizontally, 90 degrees to the plumb line. Or use a transit. On level ground or water, the horizon never meets the center of the eye, or the center, horizontal line of the transit. The only reason the eye sees the horizon from this position is peripheral vision.

Of course, not batman. Battyman.

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You're so Jewish with your argument, you're not addressing the point while exploiting the fact every eye/camera sees a different horizon just like everybody sees a different rainbow or different speckles to move the goal posts. Great, you've gone and proved we all see a different horizon due to the angle the light enters but that's not the fucking point; the ship doesn't go over the curve asshole.

The fact you about how the angle light enters the eye effects the horizon you see makes you so guilty too.

All joking aside, why do you mention that every eye/camera sees a different horizon? They would have to be located at exactly the same point, and operate completely the same, to see the same of anything. Do you think that there is somebody who doesn't understand this? What in the world world are you on, anyway?

And what do Jews have to do with it? They see the same thing as everyone else.

If someone stands and looks absolutely straight ahead, parallel to the ground he is standing on, in either a FE scenario, or in a GE scenario, the horizon never rises to meet the eye. If he looks straight ahead, he will always be looking above the horizon at least the same distance that his eye is above the ground.

But if he is on a GE, the distance between the ground and his eye will increase because of the curvature, even though he isn't aware of it the increase. The further away anything is, the smaller it looks, including the distance between the ground, and the parallel line of sight he is looking on as he looks above it.

The only two reasons that he might see the ground are:
1. peripheral vision;
2. the distance is so great that there appears to be mergence of the light from the distant sources on the focal point of his eye. This essentially falls into the classification of a different form of peripheral vision.

If a person wants to stand and look straight ahead, the only way he can ever see the horizon is if he looks down... at least a little. The horizon never rises to meet the eye. The only way the distant ground could rise to meet the eye would be if the we were living on a concave planet, like the inside of the earth. But then there would be no horizon. There would be only a blurring of vision with distance.

You entirely have the way it works backwards in your mind.

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