Quote from: mnet26 on October 11, 2017, 02:24:14 PM

Yet this seems to be a common complaint amongst folks who can't read into the terms and conditions of bonuses. I mean everything has been spelled out for ages there that most no deposit bonuses have been capped at 25 mBTC ever since I've been there. Sure on occasion you may get an exception but more times than not you won't.

Most of the folks who tend to complain on here about Bit Starz from the beginning have already admitted they couldn't be bothered to read the rules. So once again and I've asked this time and time again. Why bother playing at a casino if folks can't be bothered to read what there getting into? Hell even the popular dice sites have rules and conditions that I"m sure most folks haven't read. Why because we've created a lazy society where folks feel entitled to there winnings no matter what rules were put in place before the wagering happened.

Hell even the most popular site Fortune Jack has now put into place all deposits are required to be played with 5 times over before withdrawal. Otherwise your winnings will also be denied. I"m sure many have not even bothered to read this rule also.

I've just come to the conclusion if you can't be bothered to read anything about what a gambling site expects of you aka the terms and conditions. Online gambling might not be for you. Maybe sticking to brick and mortar casinos might do you better. I visit 2 different casino forums and both actively promote reading the rules and terms and conditions of the web site your getting into before evening depositing.

Yet most players on here would rather cry wolf than admit, well I didn't read the rules and because it's "crypto" we feel we should be paid because were an exclusive group of folks. That don't feel rules apply to us. If this would be fiat currency or anything else there wouldn't be this mob mentality.

I will admit happily I play here on the regular and win I do win I get paid consistently. Biggest win was 13.5 BTC paid out in under 1 hour. I know the rules, staff, and know what I'm getting into everytime I play. Just common sense when playing with money ya know?

I've read through their ToS several times prior to them taking my winnings, however, there is nothing that directly links the loyalty bonus to the ToS "free" bonus rules. I even have an email from one of their VIP Managers that explicitly states that their Friday loyalty bonus is a 15% cashback bonus given out every Friday, and since it's 15% of all my deposits for the week it is clearly not a free bonus:

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Additionally, there was nothing that would have informed me that the loyalty bonus was supposed to be considered a capped 25 mBTC bonus. Even the Friday email that notifies you that you received the bonus does not provide any statement or link to the ToS, unlike the email notifications for free spins which directly state that those bonuses have "terms and conditions that apply". The only information given is that the bonus needs to be activated, and upon activation you must meet a wager requirement before the bonus expiration date:

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Given the fact that my loyalty bonus was already 10x more than the 25 mBTC winnings cap for "free" bonuses and needed to wagered at least 35x, and all communications from Bitstarz failed to associate the loyalty bonus to the ToS, any reasonable person would assume that the loyalty bonus isn't a free deposit bonus and clearly Bitstarz is just using that section of their ToS to scam players out of their legit winnings!