Quote from: Risk Mgmt on October 12, 2017, 02:51:55 PM

English is not my first language - so I apologize in advance for any errors in below statement or making no sense.

My own opinion and I mean no disrespect to anyone - there definitely is a right and wrong.
One may say that depends on ones circumstances and his/her choices - Which is true...but their so called RIGHT CHOICE today (which maybe actually is Wrong) they may lack foresight on its future consequences...which may arrive year later -- which they may not attribute to the choice they made one year back. The entire choice (Right/ Wrong) depends on ones INTENTION. If you have right/wrong intention?

I am here ( I know the current corrupt Capitalism system is messed up ) yet knowing this I am participating --- I am alive, but with no purpose to life aside from my own self-interest not of yours - I want to make money - I can invest in OIL -- knowing someones warring over that oil. i.e like the blood diamond. But hey - I just want money and Im not the one doing war...I'm here safe and sound.

In our current system of secularism-based , we believe that life has no purpose aside from eat, party, money etc because there is no reflection (THINKING enacted) on after life / right / wrong morals....- today we have many things happening out in open that were banned decades prior. Perhaps the attitude is there is no accountability after death, so that if I get away with anything here in this world - I have gotten away -- Hitler has gotten away or Cheney will get away - them Zionist will get away.

Yet getting away doesn't really matter, because all have to depart(die) some point anyway. And if he doesn't get away with doing that which gives self pleasure - which society holds to be an offence - it still doesn't matter, death is still staring from future. So what, if it comes sooner rather than later...I will live to my fullest -- with no accountability. So this is what it is. Because to most there is no thought on after-life or after-accountability. who cares....be the wolf of Wall street.

Sorry for my gibberish.

Agreed we strive to understand how to live in harmony and not just destroy each other, but putting ideologues in charge with their aliasing error as follows meaning we get Frankenstein horrific outcomes:

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 13, 2017, 03:42:48 AM

Here is a version of the Blockstream koolaid deception and lies:

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 13, 2017, 12:02:06 AM

EDIT: it should be pointed out that miners have an incentive to support a ~~non-segwit chain~~ increasing the max number of BTC to 42 million even if there is no chain reorganization, because they can attempt to take that ongoing ~~SegWit value~~ increased block rewards for themselves, because as viewed from Satoshis protocol, ~~this is a pay to anyone transaction]. A chain reorganization~~ An increase in the mining rewards is a way to capture booty and lock miners into the fork with the incentive of the booty to jumpstart the consensus around ~~taking SegWit~~increasing rewards for the miners. So it is not quite accurate to state that ~~SegWit~~ Increasing the max number of BTC to 42 million requires a contentious fork. It merely requires that miners act in their best interests to "protect Satoshis protocol and the immutability and security of Bitcoin for the maximum long-term value of their hardware investment", as well as maximizing their profit in the short-term.

The above is how a Blockhead would spread disinformation and propaganda.

The truth is that SegWit was a change that violated the immutability of Bitcoin if it is assumed that miners will not treat the transactions as pay to anyone. The Real Bitcoin refuses to honor that change because it demands we do not fall down that slippery slope of mutating Bitcoin. So ~~stealing~~[accepting the donations] from the fools who pay to anyone is honoring the immutable protocol of Bitcoin. Yet a Blockhead would try to play politics and equate protecting the immutability with doing the opposite.

In-fucking-credulous!

And for a follow-up it, the propaganda gets even more twisted:

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It was a lie, which was kind of the underlying point.

It is not a valid point. Those who make donations to miners in order to fund the blockchain are very generous and appreciated. Miners who honor Satoshis protocol gladly accept those donations. There is no lie/deception on their part. Blockheads are lying about the reality of what immutability means.

We can suppose his point is that two wrongs dont make it right or that stealing is always immoral. But it belies an understanding of contract law and reality. The deception was initiated by Blockstream who made people believe that donations were transactions. Society cant function if we reward deception by giving retards and rapefugees a vote. If the protocol says one thing, and some fools do another thing, they are culpable, not society.

Instead we must allow the free market to evaluate and adjust. We make consultations with others in our chosen society. People make personal judgements based on their local observations. But ideologues who think they have the absolute truth are evil. Just because we know of God, doesnt mean we are God.

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 13, 2017, 04:32:45 AM

Quote from: Sadlife on October 13, 2017, 04:20:38 AM

Of course this was as expected the bitcoin community dont want any new token that is a copy paste of bitcoin in the this businesses is nothing without there customers the users clearly choose bitcoin instead of BCH that is fijded centralized corporate entity. This will become another airdrop a free money for bitcoin investor and then convert the new token to bitcoin, well be seeing some bullish price again.

n00bs have no clue.

They want transaction scaling on the reserve currency of crypto which makes no sense because it violates the immutability and sacrifices security which are the key attributes that gives the reserve currency its stature as compared to altcoins.

The transaction scaling is available on altcoins and on exchanges.

That n00bs think SegWit is better because it adds more features exemplifies how they are technologically ignorant sheep who wilfully (boisterously and even belligerently) want to be deceived into to making donations to the miners as I explained in my prior post.

BCH gave the n00bs what they wanted which is an increase in block size (some fixed amount of transaction capacity increase), without destroying the security as SegWit does. It is at a higher same stature as any other airdrop, because it has the backing of the large mining cartels. It is probably just a decoy and not superior to the The Real Bitcoin (TRB = no SegWit), but it is certainly better than the SegWit insecure crapola which encourages users to spend their transactions to pay to anyone on TRB (aka BTCSatoshi) protocol which will probably ultimately prevail.

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 13, 2017, 12:15:32 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2017, 12:06:01 PM

Can you give is the TLDR of why you think Segwit is 'also an altcoin'?

The mods already deleted it (youre not allowed to read it). And I am not going to write it again. Try clicking the link in the prior post, but note that archive.is appears to not be functioning properly at the moment.

SegWit isnt even an altcoin. It is a donation protocol that rides on top of BTC that enables fools to donate their BTC to the miners (in a future double-spend) when ever they use a SegWit transaction. Its a clever scheme your masters have devised to separate you from your BTC. Yet some idiots support this as if it is some ideologically correct community consensus or some other rapefugee logic.

Core will not tell you this, but the reality will end up vindicating me as it usually does. Did you also disagree with me when I said buy LTC at $6? How about when I said nibble on Byteball when it was $1 million mcap? When I said buy ETH at $45?