Quote from: miningguru on October 13, 2017, 07:52:11 AM

I think both of them will don't have any value because they are just Bitcoin clones

Then SegWit has no value also because it is just a clone with some insecure scaling shit that will crash and burn. But are you holding SegWit lineage or real BTC protocol tokens? Do you even know? Just saying BTC is meaningless if you do not know the lineage of your tokens. SegWit lineage tokens can be hypothetically double-spent at any time in the future by miners.

But if you need to take profits on BTC at some nosebleed prices, what token will you buy? I would buy the one that is at ATL not one that is near an ATH.

Given all the uncertainty that could exist as to what BTC really is (is it SegWit, SegWit2x, or Satoshi protocol?), seems to me that a token which is entirely separated but essentially a Bitcoin clone with a scaling solution, may catch a bid as BTC moves to levels where some traders want to take some profits and buy something that is low so they can sell high.

Now imagine an attack on SegWit begins (by Bitmain?) to steal all the SegWit transactions and gains support because the booty will be shared with other miners. Wouldnt there be a stampede to buy BCH? Why would they buy Bitcoin gold which is entirely unproven with a new PoW that has no mining cartel support. If you want Bitcoin gold, why not buy Monero instead then you get a GPU mined coin (for now) and some degree of anonymity as well. Also Monero has an algorithmically scaling block size and active ongoing development (albeit somewhat slow perhaps). So you just buying the name and hype of Bitcoin gold with Equihash.

Afaics, BCH is the only one that is unique. It has the support of the mining cartel who might end up being the one who capitalizes on the SegWit booty. And it is at an ATL. And BTC is moving towards a nosebleed phase transition ATH.

But maybe I am wrong and BCH will be scorned and has no utility as a trading vehicle. Then why does LTC catch a bid? Perhaps LTC has been around longer, more active development?

Quote from: pitiflin on October 13, 2017, 10:01:27 AM

I had high hopes with bitcoin cash,the price did go to like some 600-700$

I sold at $800s. I expected it to decline. I bought more at $350. Probably premature. I should have waited for $240 - $290. But I was overworking, sleepless when I made that decision, so I was not as clear thinking as now.

I dont have very high hopes for it. Im not expecting it to take over and become the real Bitcoin. I am expecting another trade up to maybe $1000 to $1500, presuming the entire market does not collapse and traders take profits on BTC and want to trade into something undervalued.

I view BCH more as a safe haven away from attacks that could come on SegWit. And as a trading vehicle for profit taking on BTC. And as the only BTC clone airdrop with any legitimacy at all, given Bitmains support. And given that if anyone was going to attack SegWit with a mining attack, I would think Bitmain might be the one with such a scheme up their sleeve.

Quote from: nomenclatur on October 13, 2017, 10:12:32 AM

bch will continue to exist, we can not compare with Bitcoingold because it has not appeared, if more stable than bch then the bad possibilities are definitely there. I think bch will continue to innovate and increase value. We can see it with blockchain that began to welcome its existence.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchaininfo-releases-full-bitcoin-cash-support-users-receive-coins

Also it is one the few coins that can still trade on ShapeShift. ShapeShift has been purging many of the ICOs tokens ostensibly due to securities regulation concerns.