Quote from: tearodactyl on October 18, 2017, 09:00:12 PM

Quote from: Labro on October 18, 2017, 06:24:48 AM

Quote from: tearodactyl on October 17, 2017, 11:59:59 PM

Quote from: Labro on October 17, 2017, 08:51:48 PM

is a mining pool nothing else then a wallet with open ports for mining?

is your question nothing else then unwillingness to use Google?

Wow.... gtfo

Labro, I would like to apologize for my reaction. It has nothing to do with you, but stems from my frustration with a certain portion of comments in the thread.

Zero, besides having technological innovations and improvements, is the ONLY actively developed and promoted Zcash-type coin, that is FREE.

Zcash has a Founder Reward of 20% during first 4 years, which is another three years in the lifetime of the coin. At current market cap, since the coin was launched a year ago, the 20% plus whatever they mined when the difficulty was way low, or GPU mined since, must be worth like $120M. And three more years of same, even if the price stays flat, rather than rising with the rest of the crypto space.

Venture-funded, they started with a development push, security audits, mining performance competition. But have been rather lax for at least six months, IMHO. They have a crew of professional developers working full time, the management is traveling worldwide to conferences. Meanwhile, they could not be bothered. for a year now, to develop a GUI wallet, not even to make the standard Qt one work. They've had "Portability" as a project on the roadmap for at least 6 months now, and never once produced an official Windows or MacOS port or distribution.

The only stable GUI wallet for the entire ecosystem was coded in Java Swing by an independent developer vaklinov, who received a pittance in contributions so far. There were two efforts to develop a GUI wallet within Zclassic / Zen community, now both in limbo.

Zclassic, the original FREE fork, was largely abandoned in favor of Zen, which has close to 9% dev fee and miners only get 88%. There has been discord in the Zen crew, with the key dev quitting, after disclosing a vulnerability on Twitter.

Hush, another early Zcash fork, has been on hiatus for a bit. They are re-energized now and got a solid new lead dev, but their Github is still underwhelming, with new work yet to be rolled out and tagged.

Windows or Mac independent support has been spotty across the ecosystem. Independent Zcash Windows binary build is now dated, and build instructions were never truly documented. The dev is a solid guy, but I always build my own. Likewise for Zclassic, several-month-old binaries for Windows and Mac, with no build instructions. Zen is on its own trajectory. Hush does have Windows/Mac support on the roadmap, perhaps even this year. Likewise for Zero, a binary Windows build with no instructions, was produced back in May, by a dev who has not been seen since, and before a potential DoS vulnerability in Zcash was disclosed and patched across all the coins.

Zero coin is maintained and supported by a very small group of volunteers, in what spare time we have from jobs and families, not getting a single Zero out of it. If you like the project, but feel like it's moving slowly and not firing on all the cylinders, you have a few choices:
* Get involved in development and testing
* Generate content
-- a boatload of mining instructions and know-how is floating around in the thread and online, but needs to be collated and maintained
-- we have a translation of the announcement into German and Russian, with Greek, Italian, and Portuguese in the pipeline, but will welcome others
* Keep track of the other projects in the ecosystem, keep us informed and identify tidbits of features we can bring in
* Promote the heck out of this coin next week, when a set of announcements come out
* Setup a development fund and beg or shame major miners, pool owners and coin holders into contributing
* Bounty specific tasks or deliverables
* Say something nice, or nothing at all
* Shut the F+++ up and move one

Thanks for listening,
Tearo

fast slack