Quote from: Yadstiker on October 20, 2017, 06:23:02 PM

Quote from: Bitfort on October 20, 2017, 11:03:00 AM

Quote from: bhadz on October 20, 2017, 06:16:16 AM

Quote from: Bitfort on October 19, 2017, 02:12:33 PM

Quote from: bhadz on October 19, 2017, 02:11:50 PM

It's not even called a solution if you are going to make 100% transparency when playing online poker. I guess there's no use and it's not even an innovative idea. The idea of playing poker will be useless and for sure many will forget this game online if all the cards are transparent to each other, everyone will be folding their cards and will just quit the game later on because there's no use of playing it.

I don't think you know how provably fair systems works. (sorry if Im wrong)

The thing is you dont need to show cards to each other. All you need is to make sure "the cards order was given at game start and has not changed during the game".
This can be achieved by using "hash functions".

IMO by transparent he means: to be verifiable

Sorry but you are misunderstanding what I said, what he says is different and his terms aren't appropriate and if he means about verifiable then that should be and it shouldn't be transparent. I understand on what you have said about the cards should be given in order and will be constant, no change at all. This is good and this can secure every sit players that there's no suspicious thing that's happening.

OK, I re-read the OP and see he used both "transparent" and "verifiable" words in his post.
So you were correct. My apologies for accusation.

@OP Transparent poker game makes no sense. I can only assume you have used inappropriate wording.

Been wondering if this is also actually true, i have heard it actually few times before but never actually been and saw it. I don' t know if this has a point but he means transparent? So i guess maybe it does exist in live poker but not actually in some p2p poker, it sounds like there is also no point on having transparency and could only lose players rather than attracting it, it sounds like actually cheating for me, correct me if i were wrong.

@Bittfort no, it's fine mate we're here to discuss things about like this.
@Yadstiker, transparency it's not literally a cheating for me but when you are one of the players it's a disadvantage right? You can see the cards of your opponents and your opponents knows your cards too. It's unfair and maybe there is something that OP wants to declare but he can't express it properly.