Quote from: rudel777 on October 21, 2017, 06:10:53 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 20, 2017, 12:00:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 20, 2017, 11:39:53 AM

Quote from: rudel777 on October 20, 2017, 09:03:27 AM

The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved.

If you wave your hand through the empty air, are you not waving it through empty space as well? After all, the fact that the air is less dense than water, or less dense than the ground you are standing on, or less dense than a rock, or less dense than a chunk of iron, indicates that the air simply has more empty space between its molecules, right?

Or suppose you become an astronaut and ride a rocket 100 miles up. Are you not in space, then? And is not space made out of nothing?

Does "nothing" exist? After all, nothing is only the absence of something, like darkness is only the absence of light. So, does nothing really exist? You can't grab hold of nothing. You can't take it into your laboratory to measure its properties by chemically dissolving it. The only way you can analyze it is to analyze the relational properties of material or energy "things." Through the measurement of various material relationships, you can prove that nothing exists, even though you can't do anything with nothing at all, directly.

Same with darkness. You analyze light. But you can't analyze or measure darkness. Yet you can prove darkness exists because you can measure aspects of light and other electromagnetic radiation.

In a similar way, you can measure all kinds of aspects of the things that we know about the universe to prove that God exists, even though we can't grab hold of Him and chemically tear Him apart in the lab to find out what He is made of.

- Cause and effect in everything in the universe is like programming.
- Complexity in everything shows how great the programming is.
- Entropy shows that there was a beginning.
- Combining these 3 things, scientifically proves that God exists, although it doesn't prove much about what He is.

Words don't always convey a meaning well. But you can look throughout this thread to find many words that explain how these 3 things prove the existence of God. Several links to explanations are here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

One other thing that yo will find is, those who want to prove that God doesn't exist, or that the 3 basics listed above don't prove that God doesn't exist, can't do so satisfactorily. Yet they continue to talk and act like they think that God doesn't exist. While their words don't express directly or clearly that they hate God, after a time, their whole group of words expresses it.

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Don't listen to badecker, he has been debunked several times before.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684

The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved. The Bible says that we must accept by faith the fact that God exists: And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him (Hebrews 11:6). If God so desired, He could simply appear and prove to the whole world that He exists. But if He did that, there would be no need for faith. Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed (John 20:29).

this is what im saying mr BADecker dont stop on one sentence only read the whole comment to understand my friend

Does God Exist?Many Absolute Proofs! (Part 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxD04LWW10

Does God Exist?Many Absolute Proofs! (Part 2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsfyba4sJA

Does God Exist?Many Absolute Proofs! (Part 3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zpd9FfiMZg

Does God Exist?Many Absolute Proofs! (Part 4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKblsrNCOo

Does God Exist?Many Absolute Proofs! (Part 5)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxfGKu7fmXE

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