Quote from: wattson on October 20, 2017, 08:30:09 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on October 20, 2017, 07:37:15 PM

Quote from: wattson on October 19, 2017, 01:02:58 PM

Hi guys,
I have a serious question about the process of randomization in card shuffling in online poker.
Is there any solution for it to make it 100% transparent and verifiable and simple at the same time as well? Please share any innovative idea if you have any.

If you're talking about playing against a bot operated by an online casino site, much like when you're playing blackjack it's of course possible. I've seen and played online poker against a provably fair bot more than once.

If we're talking about playing other people it's impossible, because the provably fair system only verifies seeds by making sure that the house "roll" stays anonymous to both sides and isn't changed until the player sees it on his screen.
In a poker game people don't roll, they choose cards themselves. The only way a casino could cheat in a pvp poker game is by watching your hand and revealing it to other players who would be planted casino employees.

In the second line of your last paragraph you addressed the core of my my question, but the question remains the same, how to know that you are not playing against a casino who is seeing your cards and acting accordingly. Is their any simple solution to that so that this process become TRANSPARENT
and verifiable?

I don't see any way to do it at the moment. There's a reason why poker rooms are plagued with teams of players that work together and share the winnings. If you are at a 5 player table and 3 of them are sharing cards you will have a very hard time. It's similar with playing against casino plants, even in a 1v1v2 situation where those 2 are casino employees. They don't have to see your cards, but they will be able to minimize your winnings by playing together.

According to some, cheating in poker can be detected if you play long enough:
An understanding of game play and betting patterns will allow an observant player to realize when this form of rigging might be taking place.
In fact, this is exactly what happened during a tournament at Absolute Poker back in 2007, when observant players questioned the tournament winner's game play and instigated an investigation which led to the uncovering of a scandal in which online players were cheated out of up to $1 million.