Quote from: Astargath on October 21, 2017, 02:32:44 PM

Quote from: qwik2learn on October 20, 2017, 08:59:14 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 20, 2017, 08:54:15 AM

No, I'm not a scientist. If there was enough evidence then we would have a scientific theory of your beliefs, there is no survival scientific theory for magic, as far as I know, if you show it to me then I will believe you.

Consciousness is fundamental, and it influences matter.
Theories that support this idea are: Orch OR and survival.

Quote from: Astargath on October 20, 2017, 08:54:15 AM

You claim what you have is evidence but it's not, all those tests are flawed, personal experiences and can't be repeated.

Not true. Check out the tests and back up your claim with facts.

Quote from: Astargath on October 20, 2017, 08:54:15 AM

Again if there was sufficient evidence scientists would have made a scientific theory,

It already happened, I spoke with "protokol" about Orch OR and he could not deny that this theory is plausible.

Quote from: Astargath on October 20, 2017, 08:54:15 AM

you are trying to convince people that magic is real in a bitcoin forum, off topic section in a thread that is called ''scientific proof of god'' You are desperate to feel validated by others so you can still believe in what you believe.

I am pointing out that survival is a viable hypothesis and that it debunks the philosophical materialism espoused by many atheists. Parapsychological research does not qualify as "magic", the results are easily explained by scientific theories like survival and Orch OR.

Quote from: qwik2learn on October 12, 2017, 06:40:25 AM

Quote from: qwik2learn on October 09, 2017, 07:58:52 PM

Regarding TK, the evidence goes back to the 19th century, many eminent researchers have conducted their own tests:
https://www.quora.com/Is-telekinesis-scientifically-true/answers/17777933

There is a group of atheists who call themselves skeptics that display an almost religious need to deny this research. Its just weird, but theyre very serious about it. Its their version of religious intolerance.

Evidence doesnt magically disappear when its contested. It just means that theres disagreement.

There is plenty of evidence for psychic ability and it is a bald faced lie to say that there isnt.

There are a ton of ''viable'' hypothesis, so what? Why would you chose some hypothesis when there are already scientific theories that just work better. You are not proving anything here.

''Theories that support this idea are: Orch OR and survival.'' Orch OR is not a theory, is a hypothesis and I don't see how it directly supports magic but whatever, again and you know this, there is no scientific theory about any of what you mention.

Yes, but, the ideas that God DOESN'T exist are way less viable than the ideas that He DOES exist.

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