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Good thing you made this important discovery that we all missed. Crap, well... Go ahead and send me all your worthless coins and I will see to it that they are disposed of. Roll Eyes

I am not a miner. The speculators(me) have a potential role to create an inflated value by buying bitcoins at an exchange as I think they might be worth something one day. But based on what I see already, they will not be once people realize there is no where to spend them.

If all you care about is the gold 2.0, understand the dollar wins! Similar to money, it is a tool, not a store of value.

You intend to buy btc at an exchange, but want others to hand you Thiers to cash out for your farm?

I guess you missed out the half a dozen routes you could have taken to not require bit coin investors.

Tip:
Find a cheap farm shop buy veg, sell veg...
Firstly compared to just speculatively buying coin direct from fiat, at let's say a high of $138. Buying just $90 of veg at wholesale price can be sold for profit to net you a whole bit coin.
Sell that bit coin for fiat. Get a return of over $130, after fee's. Rinse repeat, while you wait till next year to buy land, as its a bit late to buy land churn the soil, sow the seed to get a harvest complete by this summer.

So do some wholesale-retail until winter so that your ready for buying land, to start growing next year, then next year you will have the service running, but becoming more self reliant on stock as oppose to buying in... which means less cashing out

He isn't behaving that differently from you, you know. He's looking for bitcoin investors to help start-up his farm. You and others are looking to Silicon-Valley+Wall Street to come up with solutions that enable Bitcoins to be spent.

Why the hostility to finding start-up capital from within the community in coins?

You seem to be imagining that it will make existing bitcoiners poor. But eventually all wealth flows towards those who supply venture/start-up capital. They don't view it as "handing over money", but instead as a stake in a profitable venture. They end up owning the world, leaving the hoarders for dust.

Personally I like the idea of a farm where you can buy food direct for cryptocoins, by-passing the supermarkets. But it's not a "sexy" venture that will attract fiat venture capital - so it either raises funding from within the community or doesn't happen at all. OP's other alternative is raising money from the traditional banks - can you imagine how that conversation will go? Not to mention him having to constantly cash out the BTC he earns to pay fiat interest, fees, etc, instead of keeping the BTC within the BTC economy. Fiat wins...

Thank you!

I have a ton of other idea that will actually get a bitcoin economy flowing quickly. No one else is focused on the hard work required building an economy. <-- most of you think I am asking for free handout. You would be more naive than any. She "gets it"

The VC who help carve out the path, win 10-fold, that has been my orginal thesis, otherwise bitcoin never really goes much higher. Even it makes it to $1000/btc, Its still chump change to the economy. Again, with out a single satoshi having a value near that of a dollar, but how is that obtained.

I am beginning to realize I am on point! You 'hoarders' are digging your own wealth grave.

If anyone understand what has happened to farmers over the past 50 years, they were told, or they needed to update their machinery, the only option was to go the "miners" or "banks" to get cash distributed, to grow an economy.. Unfortunately, debt basically means they will eventually be filing for bankruptcy, and lose their farm, only for the mega giants to swoop in a take it for pennies on the dollar. Keep hoarding, speculation is only soo strong of a force until it destroys you.

Bitcoin is debt free!

If you keep focusing on the tippy top point of the future, money, greed, technology, if things do not go as planned, american specifically are screwed.

During the collapse of the soviet union, things were not as bad as they could have been, and or will be in america, because most russians farmed..

And you think I am trying to scam you guys out of a few coins you minted with electricity from your wall. Ya, really hard work. So far most of your logic is lining to be that of a wall street day trader who provides nothing to society, before you know it, all your going to hear a loud sucking sound, known in the industry as a vaccum.