Quote from: ElmetElmet on October 27, 2017, 09:46:57 AM

Quote from: ClapeyronRobotics on October 26, 2017, 08:52:48 PM

Quote from: ElmetElmet on October 26, 2017, 06:47:55 PM

Quote from: ClapeyronRobotics on October 26, 2017, 09:55:43 AM

what do you think about our project?

What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word

SCAM

all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project".

Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold.

What doesn't add up in our whitepaper?

Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme.

Here is that important bit from your bounty campaign announcement:

"There is a reward for participation in the bounty program. It will be distributed immediately after the pre-ICO and immediately after the ICO.
If more than $ 265,000 will be collected during the pre-ICO, the participants of the bounty program will be able to choose how to get their reward: in PCLP tokens or in ether (equivalent to the pre-ICO pricing). Dollar equivalent of the total award will not exceed 5% of the amount collected.
If from $ 250,000 to $ 265,000 will be collected during pre-ICO, 5% of the sold PCLP tokens will be issued and distributed among the participants of the bounty program.
Account is crucial for bounty-program participants; it also can be used by investors to track their investments. For bounty participants, the size of reward is proportional to the number of followings the participant's personal referral link. If the pre-ICO's minimal funding limit will not be reached, we will save your bounty progress (from your account) and this progress will be restored in the next trial of pre-ICO. If no pre-ICO will take place, no reward will be given to the bounty-program participants."

In order to earn the bounty participants must get investors to buy your tokens. That's a f***ing pyramid scheme. and there is no guarantee to earn any bounty.
When pre-ICO fails, there will be another pre-ICO, and so on...
Lack of info abot team? Yeah, you got it right, Ilya Gridniev's Facebook Profile:
https://www.facebook.com/ilya.gridnev.7587 - one picture posted two days ago (same as in whitepaper!), two friends and that's all - does this person even exist?
Not much more about the rest of the team.
Your product is supposed to have all bells and whistles, beating the existing and future competition at the fraction of the price. How you gonna do that?
Token buyback at a higher price - where is the money for that coming from?
Roadmap - in less than two years you are going to have not just working prototype, but ready to use product. That is impossible. Or you much further with the development than you claim you are, and you need funding for things not related to it - cars, apartments, holidays etc.

Also, we have link to the vkontakte, where you can look at our accounts like on Facebook.

About our "Pyramid": very clear scheme, one more time:
we emit 5% from solded tokens and distribute them between ALL bounty participants. The size of awards for each bounty participant will be proportional to the ratio of website visits via your referral link to total number of website visits via all referral links.

Referral link is generated for each bounty participant. When he advertise us, he replaces "clapeyronrobotics.com" with his own referral link.

You can ask questions about bounty here too, if you don't understand smth and want to participate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317282.new#new

About buying back: we have already counted the cost of robot. So, we can sell robot at $5000 price. About realistic roadmap was answered above. And we need money for a big team (not 2 people like co-founders), prototypes of the robot and etc.
As described in tokensale: $250 000 is the required amount for the development of final instance of robot. Even if we don't raise above, will still sales of robots.

And: second pre-ICO is about second attempt. All moneys will refunded if there is no hard cap according to the smart-contract.