Quote from: CAFxX on June 18, 2011, 08:45:10 AM

Quote from: Bind on June 18, 2011, 07:29:09 AM

if you care about freedom and liberty.

Yes I do. The thing "the US" doesn't get IMHO is that a person's freedom ends where another's begins. It's too easy building your citizens' freedom at the expense of other peoples'.
Mind you: I'd be equally critic if this were to be the position of the EU or whatever else. It's just that these kind of things generally come always from the US (ACTA, SWIFT, etc.) - so I get started up pretty easily when somebody links "freedom" and "US".

And BTW, I disagree with the primadonna view of the US: no, you're not strictly needed. Simlarly, the EU is not strictly needed, Japan is not strictly needed, China isn't either and so is India. Nobody's strictly needed.

You are not speaking about the US.

You are speaking about the insidious influence who puts dupes and minions into power throughout world governments.

Those bastardizing what this country and the rest of the free world were built upon are the ones you should direct your vitriol towards. Not any nation nor its people.

The rest of the world is all bought up with WB/IMF loans they cant even pay the interests on. Europe already fell to the globalists geopolitical and financial power. The asian union and african union are not far off. All it would take is for america to fall completely to start a chain reaction steamrolling to world towards a global police state with centralized executive, legislature, judiciary, and military.

Go read some realy history books, not the ones they give you in school not the information in the media. They are dividing and conquering us by splitting us apart. We are brothers and sisters fighting the same battle in the same war.

There is still time while we have freedom left.

If freedom and liberty were truly gone, we would be arrested for having this discussion and put in re-education camps.

It's not to late... for now.