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An actual CG render that clearly came from real CAD software? I demand a crappy looking Photoshop like everyone else has Wink

Looks great TerraHash keep it up

Yeah it is nice to see, this is definitely a first of sorts LOL

I am almost ready to put my full weight and self approval on this project, just a few outstanding questions I wish could be answered. Sad

Namely - Avalon order date and confirmation, facility confirmation from an outside source - if I could check these off the list, I would pre-order in a second.

I optimistically hope still, out of KNC, TH, Bitfury and even BFL, TH will be the winner.

I give it 50/50 at this point who delivers first between TH and KNC. I think both are likely legit.

Go read the entire KnCMiner thread and re-evaluate...they are scammy and untruthful, as PG has been pointing out with some fury. There are holes all over, and all they have show is an FPGA board that they have since abandoned as they came to the table entirely late with it as ASICs come online.

Don't give any of these companies your money until they actually show they have something real. Otherwise you deserve what you get for your ignorance.

I was more or less comparing the pre-order montra to the other companies that took pre-orders. At this state in the game, not many would pay for something that hasnt been produced.

I disagree, so many scams are only appearing because there are enough gullible fools out there that send them money without thinking to support it. Hopefully this is changing, I have my own effort going to help this problem.

There is nothing wrong with pre-orders in a legitimate community startup as long as it is funding mass production after the product has been shown and demonstrated, ideally by unaffiliated 3rd parties. Anything other than this is a fraudulent undertaking.

TerraHash seems to be on the level with this, and is a reasonable explanation that Avalon chips still inbound, Avalon itself can acknowledge this as they have actual products they sell. Letting Avalon fill the void for chips instead of designing their own is a smart thing to do and cuts way down on development time and cost. Seeing a real CAD/CAM design is encouraging.