Quote from: ZeroTheGreat on November 02, 2017, 07:30:40 PM

Quote from: Bitbobb on November 02, 2017, 07:23:02 PM

Do you believe individuals should hold political rights? Do you believe people have a right to money?

It doesn't matter what I believe. I hope that market will deliver something other than feudalism 2.0, Roger's project is very interesting, but no one can guarantee it. Pockets of voluntarism in Mad Max world is our best hope

Quote from: Bitbobb on November 02, 2017, 07:23:02 PM

I think that the nations had a fair chance to keep an honest issue

Open blockchains erase nations by being borderless systems and by destroying total taxation. I predict Corporate Congresses in midterm future

no the nation-states have plenty of personam jurisdiction obviously. And that if properly applied (and they usually do these days LOL) leads to subject matter jurisdiction. So I see no way that power to tax is lessened. So forgive me if I do not join you to woe the poor nation-states right now. Bitcoin is a higher quality money. The fact that usa moved over to a double signature issue and therefore made their tier 1 money similar to a "commodity money" is not my fault and they should pay the price since that was the second job of government. If a nation-state willfully abandons their job should we get upset at the people who push forward with a new system? a better system to boot?

The fact is that what you are describing happened in 1789. Yes a federal corporation was formed. It was the 12th version. So USA ver. 12.0.0 (stable release). And it was open source public chains of title available all over in nodes called counties where you can verify title to your private property that you may have got on presale for 1/5th of the face value. In exchange you needed to support the network by mining or living there 5 years. Finally after 5 years the difficulty re targeted and you earn a block where the chain of title gets updated in your name now and you can either keep the transaction offline (paper wallet aka wild deed) or you can include it in the counties records for the public notice. Under original rules only the landowners had the right to vote! And the only reason the King and his jurisdiction was thrown off is because of the time it took to redress a grievance (6+ confirms took over 3 years back then)

The fact is that the previous system under the Virgina Land Corporation was deemed a total failure by 1696. They needed to admit that 99% speculation was an unworkable prospect. So hence the Virginal company model was abandoned and Jeffereson who was running the enterprise moved later as governor of Virginia to sign over the vast land holdings to congress to be later distributed. This makes the incentive there for future users to support the network (USA). At the time Jefferson made the comment that this was the most dubious signature he ever affixed to a contract. And so too I felt as I sold btc to buy bch but I believe it is a more perfect system that is employed in the governance framework than one that removes the "single signature" aspect of bitcoin.

Sovereigns come and go but titles to private property are supposed to remain in the hands of the private party that held them prior to the changing of the sovereign. If you respect private property then you are not scared of market forces. and therefor not fearful of international law nor the family of nations that all cling to it.

We have seen "willful blindness" at the nation state level obviously. In fact the USA is one of the largest violators of international law this last 100 years. So the only fear under a system using market forces is that somehow the individual can be gamed to work against their own best interests and be similarly blinded.. Maybe that is riskier today than ever before IDK LOL!