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The long-awaited details came out. Thanks.

Why is KYC so important?

KYC is required by the banks and exchanges. As our token sale agreement did not allow for US citizens and other restricted persons to participate in the sale, the KYC procedure allows to verify citizenship and make sure the token holders comply with those rules.

Hi Vlad, Expect soon the story that all investors with good faith, that cannot fulfill the KYC, will lose their money.

Hello!

First of all, we don't see any problems in the fulfillment of KYC. Nowadays, almost every ICO has KYC as a usual part of the process. We need to conduct KYC procedure 1) cause it's required by banks, 2) to protect the company and tokenholders from participation of restricted persons.
So, why would it be a problem?
And second, for everybody who doesn't fulfill or doesn't want to fulfill the KYC procedure, we will provide the refunds.

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Vlad Danilov, [31.10.17 01:54]
[In reply to Next Level]
I see your point, but as you can see, it was planned from the very beginning. I hope you will keep your tokens and pass KYC without any problems

Next Level, [31.10.17 01:54]
No, refund is needed

Vlad Danilov, [31.10.17 01:55]
[In reply to Next Level]
ACE tokens are non-refundable.

Next Level, [31.10.17 02:41]
I see no sense in a hidden discussion. You have already made and determined your opinion. No refund. But it's your decision to lead me on the path that I have to go now. See you later.

Vlad Danilov, [31.10.17 02:44]
[In reply to Next Level]
I hope this information would be helpful for your future contributions. Have a nice day!

https://t.me/TokenStars_en/6231

Does that sounds like "for everybody who doesn't fulfill or doesn't want to fulfill the KYC procedure, we will provide the refunds" for you?

For everybody who doesn't fulfill or doesn't want to fulfill the KYC procedure, we will surely provide all the refunds minus commission for the transfer.

You hold me for an hour and talk till the end that I don't get a refund and I have to get used to it. And now suddenly it is "surely provide all the refunds". This is somewhat untrustworthy. What is you mind tomorrow?

However, looking forward to get refund instructions.

There was a misunderstanding. We will surely provide all the refunds minus commission for the transfer.

How much will that commision be?
Why you dont pay back instantly?

Hello, when you purchased tokens you paid a transaction fee for transferring your BTC/ETH to your private account on our website. So, if you don't pass the KYC procedure the funds will be transferred back in full amount minus fee for the transfer.

because you say that everybody else also does this and that is not true.
I am an european

https://poloniex.com/ is shady? No KYC and 2000 dollar transfer
ico Spectrocoin and bankera no KYC
Cryptopia no KYC
Liqui nog no KYC
bitconnect no KYC

There is a high risk if wrong people get this documents and thereby another paper with adres etc.
Electroneum I think not a shady ico has also problems with pasword hacks etc
A hack is Always possible. Wich measures you take against hacks. From whick companies you have document that you are trusted holder of this documents