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I think Yakov will now start doing things right and try to solve ALL THE PROBLEMS of the past.
He has already said that he will restore the 50 free btbc to all those who won them by registering. (as was initially promised by signup reward)
I also think that if Yahov want to start doing things right, he will make a 1:1 swap, since those who bought at ICO at low prices and those who bought at exchange at low prices are investors too.
In coinexchange many people sold their coins in lost and others took advantage and bought them, that's not bad, that's how the coin market works.

Many of the investors at the beginning also took advantage and ran out to sell their coins to the coinexchange for values of $ 1, $ 2, $ 3, $ 4 and up to $ 5 and they returned to Bitbase exchange to buy cheap and so they repeated that operation several times.
Those who bought in conexchange have the same coin that were sold at some time in the ICO.
They say that some miners mined and took advantage ... but that should be within the plans, since it was a minable coin and would eventually be mined .. Yakov should not allow more deposits in coinexchange and the miners could not continue sending coins.
An exchange 1 BTBc = 1 Laser would be the best solution and it would start with all the investors happy and talking well about the project. This would solve all the problems and give a clean start.
With this announcement .. immediately the coin would start to rise in value in coinexchange FASTER!!!

This project to grow needs the support of ALL. As long as there are dissatisfied people with dishonest swap, or with any other kind of problems, the project will continue dragging problems ... and investors will be harmed. I recommend SWAP 1: 1 and final closure of Bitbase.io. FRESH START AND EVERYBODY HAPPY!!!

If you wish to gobble all these 30 million coins on CE be my guest. Buy all of them to show your support lol.
Miners will happily throw you a couple of millions more. And then they move to Laser platform and earn passive income from our pockets.

I think you have a very selfish thought that does not solve any problem.
There are 1,300,000 for sell at Coinexchange right now, so I do not know where you get the 30,000,000 figure. In any case, if they do an swap, the coins that the miners have within the coinexchange will be swap equally. Those who are not miners who bought the same as you in exchanges, changing their BTC for BTBc do not count ..?
Why do you think you have more right than someone who bought in exchange? Today, their coins are worth the same as the miners have and those who have bought in exchanges.

Do you realise that miners are not that stupid to put all of 30 mil on the sells? They keep like x30 more on their balance to not scare everyone off. I've seen +-500k supply fluctuations a day ago. Someone could just put a 250k BTBc sell like its nothing. They do it quietly. By the way I had 50% of my BTBc on Coinexchange that I bought for $5,000 at $0.6 and I'm READY to sacrifice all this if it lets the project survive.

Otherwise u fucking people will keep going in circles in the end we get all this dumping story on repeat. Until the project just dies out. We have TOO MUCH supply now. We must reduce it x10 at least. The best is x40

I believe that neither you nor anyone should lose or sacrifice anything... the project can work as long as the right things are done and no decisions are made on the fly that always harm everyone.
When I speak, I do it from outside my shoes. I should not worry so much, since my BTBs are on the platform, but that does not help the others or solve anything. It is necessary that they solve the root problem.
Here all those who invest money in this platform are hurt, every time bad decisions are take. That's why I think they have to start from scratch. Make the swap 1:1 and from there to start fresh. That the miners or whoever has coins and is selling them in coinexchange, is not the fault of those who bought in Ico, nor those who bought in coinexchange. Because if we want this to go ahead, there must be a real solution. and the only real solution is a 1:1 swap, because if someone is left out or offers an unfair swap, the affected investors will make the new project fall, reporting being victims of fraud to the authorities for having offered different swaps ratio for the same coin ... no matter where the coin was purchased.

Imagine you have a boat that can save only 40 drowning people, max 60. You've got 500 people around you screaming for help too. Would you just take them onboard sinking this boat and make the body count 561 or you just take 60 with you and at least have a chance to survive making this body count 439 instead of 561?

This is pretty binary thing here. Either we all die together or some of us manage to survive. I dont believe dev has spare 50 million dollars to keep everyone onboard (he risks his money too by the way).

The world is a fucking cruel place, you all act like children ffs.

Fortunately there is not a boat or people to save ... But if I have to select someone to get on the boat, believe me it is not you who I would choose. Your comparison has nothing to do with the problem that is happening here..

The amount of coins remains the same and they allowed the mining, so that any mined currency should have already been planned.
If you read their Whitepaper, the sale of the 100,000,000 coins in the ICO was planned. So I do not know what you are talking about, nobody has to spend 50 millions to save this project. The project can be saved only if things are done well and people selfish like you, stop prioritize. Since every person who has a btbc coins is it's like any other, nobody is more important than another and all the coins are the same, regardless of where they bought them.
The worst mistake that can be made is to continue making bad decisions and continue ignoring problems.

You must understand this, if someone is left out, the whole project will fail... if everyone stays inside, even if it costs a little more time to start, lowering the interests, in the end the trust will be consolidated for having acted correctly and everything will begin to function correctly and new investors will trust and will grow the value of the coin.
Do you believe that a project where bad decisions are made, where an unfair swap has been offered, will receive new investments ...?

You can say goodbye to $1 price forever if Yakov decides to do 1:1. Good luck buddy, I'm moving on anyway.
If 1:1 happens it would be unfair to me as the original believer and investor, because I have 6k and someone for the same money bought 100k coins. $1 would be unsustainable, I'm telling ya, 100% sure. But whatever dev decides, I'm ready to lose everything and I wont blame him.

I would be happy to witness people's coins dump again to $0.02. I would give away my money for this show. Democracy here is pure pain in the ass, people always scream for something and when they get it, their ass gets ruined

The only way 1:1 swap from coinexchange can happen is if we lock all these coins into low interest lending for 4 years.