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I've no aggression to the writers, but just want to make our community to notice this thing, is devtome more important than open source developers? I'd suggest some way, e.g. to limit the shares on devtome not exceed the half of whole shares, or as others said, use read times or vote links, instead of just words to distribute shares. just some random thoughts, not thinking very carefully, and forgive my english for I'm not native speaker.

I agree 100%. Unthinkingbit and other administrators: is there a way we can make some decision on this?

agree, though id say 1/4 is enough.
Devcoin is about DEVeloping, maintaining a wiki dosnt really count to developing Wink

Without awareness and POPularity all the DEVeloping in the world will fall flat on its face.

Writers should get paid per quality and the best way is to measure quality the way advertisers and google pay and get paid for ads and that is hits or page-views.

I know unthinkingbit said last month there was a program almost ready to be used for this. This will ensure that people will write quality work or quit. It is the most fair way of doing things.

Going based on hits/views is one of the easiest systems to manipulate (exploit). I am 100% against this.

How is that? I mean, isn't this how google gets paid? Are advertisers that dumb? I presumed if it was good enough for google and billion dollar advertisers it would be good enough for devtome and devcoin. Or is there something in addition which google employs to ensure there's no manipulation?

Anybody know how google does it to keep it fair and keep bots out? TIA.

Google pays based on a CPC rate; not CPM. Meaning they pay only if someone clicks. Furthermore, they analyze each click to see how the user responds to the advertiser's page, as well as their IP and some other criteria, to ensure that the click was not forced and was a legitimate person wanting to see what the advertiser had to offer. Even with all of this in place, Adsense has a fraud rate of over 40%.

I really don't want to go into more details about how all of it works, but suffice it to say that unless there are a lot of criteria searched for, the number of views (raw or unique) is too easy to manipulate for it to be any good.

I'd also argue that the number of views does not indicate the quality of the content regardless. There are sites that get 500 views a month using spammy methods that are earning $5k+ a month, where others get 100k+ views a month and earn less than $10. Why? Because the 500 views may be based on certain niches that pay upwards of $80 a click, whereas the other, while more popular, is not able to be monetized due to different content and what advertisers are looking for.