Quote from: hybrid on June 11, 2013, 01:12:14 AM

Quote from: virtualfaqs on June 09, 2013, 08:18:21 PM

Quote from: Manna on June 09, 2013, 06:58:53 PM

I don´t get it, who sells bitcoins at ebay for paypal. There are a lot of scammers outside. Or do they ship a coldwallet to the adress mentioned on paypal and reload it when sucessfully shipped ?

Doesn't matter how they send it. If the buyer calls foul, they'll be getting their money back. If the seller does his homework, he can easily spot 99% of scammers on eBay. Most don't. And even if you do, there's probably a group of buyers who suffer from buyer's remorse after price dropping who will threaten you with a dispute if you don't refund them.

When I was selling on Ebay, I never sold a single BTC or lost a BTC after 50 auctions. I had a specific criteria for buyers, and they never met my criteria. Numerous scammers. I only ended up paying eBay fees for my troubles.

So what was your policy?

I tried selling some BTC on eBay a few days before the crash and the buyer messaged me with his bitcoin address saying that he would pay half the purchase price first, and after he received the full BTC amount, he would send the other half of the payment (yeah right).

I told him I would send the BTC to the address he provided, and after they are sent I would message him blockexplorer.com link to the transaction. That way if either of us claimed to have been scammed, when eBay looks through our message history they will see proof of the bitcoins being sent to the address the buyer provided.

The buyer only responded a week later claiming to have had his account compromised and that eBay was looking into it.

Sorry. So hard to tell when someone replies in these threads. I just saw this. You have to do everything if you don't want to get scammed on eBay. Verify PayPal emails. Did they bid on other BTC auctions? How much are they paying? How does your price compare to others? Why didn't they bid on cheaper auctions? Call their phone numbers. Social engineer. You want to look for people with good jobs, decent universities, good records of behavior. I did all this and I never had auctions for more than 1 BTC back when they were $10. haha That's why there's such a high premium on eBay because you pretty much have to do this for every transaction.

Don't even think anyone on eBay is going to even look at blockexplorer and have a clue what it means or anything about BTC.

Just think of eBay or any online sale as the buyer can hit an "I win" button and get their money back for up to 90 days unconditionally. Now if you don't have a good idea if your buyer will use this "I win" button or not. Then you obviously haven't done enough research and should not proceed with the sale.