Quote from: Carlton Banks on November 08, 2017, 09:46:20 PM

Quote from: prehisto on November 08, 2017, 08:56:17 PM

I think it is obvious that we need to upgrade, a smooth upgrade for our community.

It isn't obvious at all.

The blocksize has already been "upgraded", 2 months ago. And the new limit's not even close to full yet.

And that makes it sound like constantly full blocks necessarily requires an increase; there are good arguments that the blocks should always be as close to full as possible for a proper fee market to work.

So saying "it's obvious" without even saying why doesn't really add much to the conversation. But here's what Mike Belshe (whoever he is) said:

Quote from: Mike Belshe

As fees rise on the blockchain, we believe it will eventually become obvious that on-chain capacity increases are necessary.

So even S2X representatives are tacitly admitting that the S2X fork wasn't needed right now anyway. 4MB is the blocksize today, and the 8MB (and not 2MB as the S2X people even now incorrectly state) increase proposed by Segwit2x would only invite problems when even 4MB isn't being used yet.

And once again, Bitcoin and it's community have demonstrated that social engineering (i.e. armies of paid liars cowering behind their anonymous forum handles) is the only weapon anti-Bitcoin wrecker have really got. And they keep failing. This is the 5th time (Bitcoin XT, Bitcoin Classic, Bitcoin Unlimited, Bitcoin Cash and then S2X) that big blocks forks have tried and failed, and:

Bitcoin Cash is now the Bitcoin with the magic big blocks (8MB max) that supposedly solves everything. And no-ones even using it (blocks are consistently less than 1MB)
Bitcoin itself now has 4MB max blocks, twice the size of the "it's only 2MB FFS!!!" screechers' wishes. And no-ones even using it (blocks are consistently less than 2MB)

Note that despite 4MB blocks in Bitcoin, big block psychopaths still refer to Bitcoin as "the 1MB Bitcoin".

No doubt you have good knowledge base and understanding about block chain.
Allow me to ask a question, than what would be the best solution for decreasing transaction fees to rational level? Rational being that it could be rational to use these transactions in every day payments.