Quote from: randomcloud on June 10, 2013, 05:46:23 AM

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Quote from: randomcloud on June 10, 2013, 02:44:45 AM

Quote from: IBCBen on June 10, 2013, 01:58:44 AM

Sad that we have let things get the way they are. I will say this we have the governments we deserve. When people realize that... Well that is when individuals start to take that power back and be responsible for it. Stay safe.

There is nothing the American people can realistically do to stop our out of control government.

How about looking at the problem realistically instead of pessimistically. Instead of making issues right and left how about seeing things as right and wrong. That is just the first step, then maybe we could fight for our rights and pull our heads out of the sand.

It's not meant to be cowardly or pessimistic at all or to ignore the morality of what is going on, it's the truth. No one we elect into office will do anything to stem the tide. Money and corporate influence holds more sway than our votes do. Protesting doesn't accomplish anything and I don't even think a violent revolution is possible at this point for a multitude of different reasons. Unless the UN or another country steps in there's nothing that can stop them.

Well I don't agree with your view of the situation. You seem to think the system is totally rigged and can't be fixed. I can understand why you feel that way but I feel that if someone was put into office who wasn't previously controlled by corporate influence and held the morals and values represented by the citizens the outcome would very different. Take JFK for example, he fought for change and made a strong impression on many.

I suspect alot of people would be forced to recognize the real issues we face instead of the mess they are force fed day in and day out. Meant to wear them out and cloud there judgement. I don't think the UN is fit to make any real positive change one bit as they seem to be very much more of the same. Also I don't think a violent revolution is the answer but instead a well informed and armed public.