Quote from: randomcloud on June 11, 2013, 12:47:45 AM

Quote from: counter on June 10, 2013, 10:07:40 AM

Quote from: randomcloud on June 10, 2013, 05:46:23 AM

It's not meant to be cowardly or pessimistic at all or to ignore the morality of what is going on, it's the truth. No one we elect into office will do anything to stem the tide. Money and corporate influence holds more sway than our votes do. Protesting doesn't accomplish anything and I don't even think a violent revolution is possible at this point for a multitude of different reasons. Unless the UN or another country steps in there's nothing that can stop them.

Well I don't agree with your view of the situation. You seem to think the system is totally rigged and can't be fixed. I can understand why you feel that way but I feel that if someone was put into office who wasn't previously controlled by corporate influence and held the morals and values represented by the citizens the outcome would very different. Take JFK for example, he fought for change and made a strong impression on many.

I suspect alot of people would be forced to recognize the real issues we face instead of the mess they are force fed day in and day out. Meant to wear them out and cloud there judgement. I don't think the UN is fit to make any real positive change one bit as they seem to be very much more of the same. Also I don't think a violent revolution is the answer but instead a well informed and armed public.

Everybody thought that's what they were doing when they elected Barack Obama, but it's just been more of the same. That's the problem. The corporations are running the puppet show and they can put out anybody as a supposed protector of the people and we, in our desire to change things, would eat that shit up. The two-party system in America is deliberately rigged to keep third parties from being able to compete with them effectively. Look what happened with Ron Paul. Even the other third parties like the Green Party didn't make a dent despite the fact that they've been put on the presidential ballot for the first time ever last election.

I quite honestly don't know what could be done at this point, and it's really sad. Sad

It's one of the reasons why I support cryptocurrencies; weaning ourselves off of the corporate supply structure will at least help do something.

Can't argue with that,I agree with randomcloud hole heatedly and suggest you all do the same if you know what is good for you!