Quote from: TimBurton on November 10, 2017, 04:17:49 PM

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Quote from: cryptoba on November 10, 2017, 12:24:10 AM

Lets be honest, most of the crypto community is unpatient. Most of them do not actually want real marketing. They want fast marketing, even unthruthful if needed, for a weak product to dump @10x-20x
When you think about it, Gulden, even with such little marketing has created more awareness outside crypto than many other coins.

Rijk decided to go is way and take is distance from most crypto communities, can u really blame him? And, actually most critics are not critics, they are just frustrated opinions, who do not like Rijk way of doing things.
Whereas a lot of devs and CEO he is still here and doing is work. The fact that he wants to protect himself and think long term, is totally ok, why shouldn´t it be?

Think big or go home!

Marketing is not only social media presence. Think about it marketing is already 10 times better than most of the coins out there, and the serious part as not even started. There is not point in advertising if the product is not ready. Time will tell, but if Gulden becomes huge, then Rijk strategy was spot on!

Rijk uses slaves for devs and targets the poorest people in the streets. Why else does the ranking on coinmarketcap keep dropping?

Down to 128, it was 120 yesterday. The trend is not good. Why not market to the large btc holders instead of people with no money?

"...targets the poorest people in the streets"
First, street advertising or mass marketing has not even really started. And, there are not only poor people on the streets!
"Rijk uses slaves for devs..." wow...please explain...If so I think Rijk slaves have more BTC and Gulden then most people in crypto. Which would mean that being Rijk´s slaves is actually not so bad!

Target large BTC holders, that is a very creative strategy! Please do go deeper...

Large BTC holders are the future richest people on earth, getting at least 5 of them to support your project will be worth more then 10 000 peasants who will cash out at 5% - 15% profits as was posted by TimBurton on the Gulden slack. Mainstream people with fiat think anything greater then 5% profit is reason to sell everything, crypto investors at least wait for 100-1000% profits, they allow the price to grow. More crypto investors that believe in your project the stronger the foundations of this coin will be. Rijk turning his back on crypto investors is dangerous and looking at the CMC rankings Gulden could of been doing far better then it is now. GRS without any marketing is higher then Gulden but GRS respected BTC investors with deep pockets and it's paying off.

Rijk is like the saviour for the downtrodden. Gulden does have a lot of users , more then most cryptos but they ordinary people with small bank accounts.

With the old slack it was traders in the trading channel dumping on 5% profits and buying in at 10% lower then what they sold for. At this stage they buying more gulden and winning by forcing the price down at the expense and health of the coin.

Biomike also made 90 000 NLG trading on the down. Aslong as these negative forces exist it will be hard for Gulden to be a top 20 ranked coin.

I see what your saying about people selling withmĺ a slight increase in price. It's going to take a lot of btc to move to the next level. It's quite a predicament to be in.

The only solution if this carries on is to reduce the PoW reward to 20?