Quote from: qwik2learn on November 10, 2017, 06:25:52 PM

Quote from: Astargath on November 10, 2017, 02:36:21 PM

Yes, we want to avoid the reality for some weird reason,

Exactly. Radin, et al wrote this paper to show that those who claim that PK is "not proven" are wrong. You did not show that the tests are methodologically unsound. You could not discredit these tests and skeptics could not account for the results with their "File Drawer" explanation. I am pretty sure that you never bothered to read this paper.

A scientist claims there is no life after death because the laws of physics make it impossible.

I'd now like to see the "completely understood" scientific explanation of how physical matter creates consciousness.

Any such explanation would be complete bullshit because it's not understood.

It's not understood because the question isn't valid. Consciousness is fundamental NOT an emergent property of matter.

Because consciousness is fundamental the possibility of awareness persisting beyond death cannot scientifically be ruled-out.

Just because there is a debate does not mean your opinion is the right one, it just means there is disagreement. You would need to provide evidence to back up your opinion, otherwise it has no merit. Where is the evidence that backs up your opinion of the paper by Radin, et al and the Eisenbeiss case? Your links claim that a test is not valid unless the researcher has a certain philosophical beliefs. That is unheard of in any other branch of science.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19336271;topicseen#msg19336271

Actually, matter is an emergent property of consciousness. As in matter has no form until it is observed or brought in contact with other matter. Let's face it, the universe is just f'ing weird, and we're scratching at the surface trying to convince ourselves that we know what it's all about, when we really know jack $#1t. That's why we reinvent our history and world view every few decades. There is no proof either way, but we're too arrogant and insecure to admit what we don't know. The phenomenon attributed to God can also be explained through quantum entanglement, transportation and "spooky action at a distance".