Quote from: Welsh on November 13, 2017, 05:45:05 PM

I'm all for finding a solution, and this will stop a majority of the people, it will likely stop the account sellers to a degree, but I think the people buying accounts for signature campaigns will still likely be willing to pay a fee, as they are theoretically doing that now by purchasing accounts, but instead of purchasing the accounts they'll just level them up themselves.

I do think this will limit the much lazier people and the people who aren't willing to invest anything and simply make dozens of accounts just to level them up and this should reduce the amount of accounts which are being sold. Having said that though I would be willing to support this as it would reduce the amount and could potentially make the moderation easier as well as general viewing more pleasant. It's certainly going to do more good than the current system.

But that's the entire point. Instead of buying the accounts from a shitposting farmer or a hacker which people will continue to do for the larger signature they then buy them from us and the money goes to the forum instead. Removing signatures from ranks would stop account farming by almost 100% and accounts would then be largely worthless if they had no signature available, therefore nobody will be buying them except for maybe scammers. I don't have any issue with people paying for the ranks and that's the whole point of it. At the moment it's free to create 200 accounts if you want and shitpost on or bot them until you hit x rank. Nobody is going to buy 200 accounts at $50-200 or whatever they will cost from the forum but if they can actually afford that and not get them banned then fair play to them.

Quote from: sinner on November 14, 2017, 12:33:19 AM

if a user's ignore count (number of times they've been ignored by, say, Full Member+) were displayed, it could be easier to identify spammers, or easier for people to ignore spammers without reading their posts, or there could be an option to ignore anybody who has been ignored by 100+ Hero/Legendary+ members.

People would maliciously abuse it with bots.

Quote from: Welsh on November 14, 2017, 01:07:35 PM

Quote from: sinner on November 14, 2017, 12:33:19 AM

if a user's ignore count (number of times they've been ignored by, say, Full Member+) were displayed, it could be easier to identify spammers, or easier for people to ignore spammers without reading their posts, or there could be an option to ignore anybody who has been ignored by 100+ Hero/Legendary+ members.

This used to be a feature, but got removed for a reason I can't recall right now. Basically users glowed Orange/yellow depending on the amount of people they were ignored by.

I think it was slowing the forum down in some capacity so theymos removed it. I wasn't a fan of it any way. Whilst it was sometimes useful for identifying trolls, people would also just use it for anyone who annoyed them or said something they didn't like. Fair enough people ignoring you but I don't think this should be a score in some capacity which is shown to all.

Quote from: Iwuzhaxxed on November 14, 2017, 07:39:44 PM

I say turn off the signatures all together until a proper solution can be found. Be like China, rule with fist. Grin

I'm guessing this is the primary reason for all of these farmed accounts. That and airdrops and selling accounts. Ban these things and the problem goes away.

Wouldn't be against trying it but theymos likely is. Hopefully he will implement the more donator ranks option I suggested though like the copper one he recently added. Maybe silver and gold ranks could be next with a Full Member and Hero-sized signature included for example.

Quote from: Thirdspace on November 15, 2017, 11:54:38 AM

Quote from: mprep on November 15, 2017, 10:53:39 AM

Quote from: Gandalf86 on November 15, 2017, 10:05:16 AM

fattycasting

(idk if I should keep posting names here for the record of it, or just send it to you mprep? It could be interesting here for other people to watch and understand the problem.)

Keep posting them here. Easier to keep track of and other mods can see and handle these as well.

wouldn't it endanger my account by posting their names here?
they may retaliate by attacking or hacking me Undecided

by reporting them silently should be enough
I think there are a few groups of them out there but using the same script/program
also I notice they're adapting, a few usernames are selectively picked now not as random as before

Then use the report to mod function. Either or is fine.

Quote from: karmakeddon on November 15, 2017, 12:04:03 PM

I am all for this too. But if getting access to higher ranks means paying, then we might need to add secondary security on our accounts such as 2FA. Them hackers would most likely target the paid accounts since those will be the most coveted ones so securing them with 2FA is not a bad idea.

Several 2fa options will be available on the new forum software coming soon.