Quote from: Kruniac on June 14, 2013, 05:35:21 PM

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Just a reminder that this is who we are dealing with here.

Old picture. I've gained weight. -.- Going from eating ramen and rice to actually stuffing myself regularly has taken it's toll.

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Kruniac, you seem like a smart guy, so I wonder how you fail to realize the immorality of your deed.

First off - What deed? (etc)

Also, if I did do something "immoral", wouldn't it make more sense that I simply don't care, rather than I fail to realize that it's immoral? Or that I justify every action I take to myself somehow? I don't even want to imagine what kind of personality disorder would cause someone to literally not realize an immoral action.

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How do you fail to see that most of us here, most of the people you took money from without sending an ASICMiner share to, are guys between 17 and 30 years old

Okay.

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many of us students struggling to pay bills just like you do.

And that sucks. Honestly.

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We're invested in bitcoin because we believe in an idea

Some of you. Others are businessmen.

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and because we hope to make some money on the side for the future.

Sure. And some of you buy blocks of shares. Some of you bid on 50 shares @ 2.5 BTC. No. Give me some of that. I have REAL bills to pay, not "investment money" to throw around. Now, given that I'm not a beggar, and that I either work for my money, or take it (which is work, believe me), there's really only one way to get a piece of that action.

Man, do you think that if I could just drop $1,000, lay in the cut, and make out okay I wouldn't? Of course I would. But the fact of the matter is this - I am at that awkward point in Bitcoin investment between "too poor to do it" and "has the capital to make some serious investments". I can buy a chunk, and starve for a month before seeing a payout. No thank you. Rent.

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Do you really want to tell me you don't know that whoever is here to buy one or two shares of ASICMiner is rich and deserves (or can afford) to be tricked out of 200 dollars?

This was a helluva sentence. I don't even...

Do I really want to tell you I don't know that whoever... I don't even.

I'll tell you that if you want to climb mountains, you'll fall every so often. Swim in the ocean, you can get bitten by a shark. Walk down an alley, you could get killed. Play in Bitcoins, you can get scammed. I don't know how else to say it. If I get taken for 20 BTC one day, it's a cost of doing business. It's akin to getting gutshot in a motel when dealing coke. It's part of the business. If you were dealing in diamonds, human suffering would most likely be part of the business. Insider trading is part of Wall Street. Scammers are part of bitcoins. It's not PERFECT, but it's REALITY.

If someone is starving because they lost 2 BTC, then why did they invest their last $200 in BTC? This is a gamble, it's not a sure thing. Anyone could buy bulk drugs and resell them for 200% markup. Most people don't. Why? It's a risk. You NEVER, EVER rely on getting by on risks. That's just irresponsible. The majority of people willing to buy shares aren't buying one at a time. They are buying twenty. They have coins to toss around. They aren't starving. They aren't getting evicted. They're fine.

The only exception I'll make to that statement is the off chance that someone gets hurt/killed because they couldn't explain the loss of BTC to whoever fronted them the coins. An unlikely situation, but it could happen.

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Come on man, be a man

I didn't vanish like a Nigerian. I didn't lie to any one at any time about who I am. I made an offer for a diplomatic meeting to any who felt like making the trip. I've been a "man" about this from the beginning. Perhaps a disrespectful and/or immature "man", but a "man" nonetheless.

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and pay back what isn't rightfully yours.

1: You're implying that I've stolen something. This is not true. I have never stolen anything from anyone in my entire life.

2: If I could toss around money whenever I feel like it, I would fill 60% of the loan requests on the forums, set up charities for people who have been scammed, AND pay back every one in this thread at 150% interest. You can call BS on this, but when LordOfTime and SubZero from OTC loaned me a small amount of BTC for shipping costs on a few items I wanted, I paid back at 200% the MOMENT I had the means to do so. I'm more "honorable" than any of you marks think I am, you just don't know that part of me.

The pecking order in my life goes like this.

1: Myself and my girl.
2: Family.
3: Friends and the needy.
3: Associates and random people.

That's how my money has ALWAYS been spent. I grew up observing totally selfless acts of charity (redneck charity - random deer meat/bologna, pawn hoss, etc) from my family to others. My father always tossed me a little money on the weekends to rent a movie or game, even though he could barely afford his home. Generosity is a part of what I believe in.

That having been said, I'm not selfless. I do not put others before me and mine. I do not believe in depriving myself for the benefit of "justice", "charity", or "honor". As always, this isn't a popular viewpoint, but it's the real world.

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Don't you see that people are hopefully holding on to their chairs in the chance that they might get 0.8 BTC back?

I'm sure some are. They should stop doing that, for everyone's benefit.

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Are these really the kind of people you want to scam?

1: I do not want to scam anyone, nor have I ever scammed anyone, etc.

2: No. Absolutely not.

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If you don't have respect, at least have a conscience.

This is something that I literally cannot just "do". You cannot "have" a conscience one day. I don't have one, to my knowledge. If I do, it hits me at random times, and certainly not regularly. Take the Menig situation for example. I'm a bit of a sadist, but some things do in fact make me sad to see. I dunno. It's something I don't want to get into a huge debate about.

Anyway. I'll tell you what. If I sink my teeth into a good long-term project and pull in my usual ~5-7k/month, I'll toss a few BTC around. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I'll clear all debts at 120%. Again, you don't HAVE to believe this, but if I'm making stupid money, I get generous. If I'm broke, I get predatory. That's just the way I am, and always will be.

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Did you have a secure-designated sauna?

20 bodyguards. Sliding walls. Snipers. Oh, we went wild with security.

I guess next some clueless idiot wants to know why random nobodies don't get any benefit of the doubt starting "securities" I'll just link him here.