Quote from: hardpick on June 16, 2013, 03:16:41 AM

Quote from: idee2013 on June 15, 2013, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Rampion on June 15, 2013, 10:15:52 AM

Why is everybody so happy that they can produce and deliver so many units per day?

Don't you realize this is a race, and the best way to maximize ROI for customers is to sell batches, as Avalon did?

Just think: if KnC sells 1,500 Jupiters and delivers them quickly, when added to the rest of the network each one will probably produce aprox. 1BTC or less per day, and ROI will be unlikely. If they sell +3,000 Jupiters (which seems likely they will do), when they arrive each Jupiter will produce 0,5BTC per day or less, and ROI won't never happen.

Honestly, it's pretty scary to see them pushing out those numbers. Each additional Jupiter they sell removes value from the previous one. Kinda the same problem we thought BFL would have, but the reality ended up being that they are so slow delivering that actually their very first customers may break/even with their units despite the delays.

and what is avalon doing?....they sale millions of avalon chips....it is the same thing

BFL sells chips, too. But only 100,000 https://products.butterflylabs.com/65nm-asic-bitcoin-mining-chip.html

any idea what the TH will be in November / dec 2013 ?

is there a link someware to bitcoin hashrate by end of year predictions ?

my guess:
bfl current orders ~ 400 Th -- Avalon chips ~ 300 TH --- KnC ~350 TH ---- Asicminer ~ 100 TH --- BFL chips~ 400 TH
+ Current network ~ 136 TH = about 1686 TH

With 1686TH/s on the network a 350GHs Jupiter will generate 0.7BTC per daily. That would have been an awful investment.