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I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link Cheesy

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

i think yes calculation can be helpful but not in all formates of gambling, For example in dice games we can only depend on our luck there our calculation will be useless, It cannot help us there to increase the chances of winning the bit. But still in some gambling games like in sports betting we have some chances to use calculation and increase the chances of making money in gambling.

You are completely wrong!
Math does help you, as you can calculate the odds of winning and losing.
If you could do that, then you could skip the bets that have 90% chance of losing and bet on the odds 90% chance of winning.
If you get like this you will be winning thus math makes you win in gambling...

Yes the casino does not like you to win, so they tell you it is all luck, so you are brainwashed and think that.
In fact card counting is forbidden in casinos, as this is pure math that helps you win even when you got no luck at all.
That is why you can beat BJ game made for fun, but you can not beat the casino, as they use math to make it impossible to win, no matter how "lucky" you are...
This is the way it works.

As for the 250k win -> we need more info how exactly did he won this amount. was it one time bet or was it like 20hrs of betting, or 30 days of betting.

I remember watching documentary on casino audit and security and the chief of security said: "we got many types of gamblers.
All are different.
I remember once on New Year's eve one guy came out of noware put a briefcase of 1mil in it.
Put it on red and won.
We never seen him before and didn't see him up till next year.
He came again and repeated what he did last year - he lost.
We never seen him again."

This was a lucky guy. Risked 1mil and had a free loan of 1mil for a year, then returned it Wink

There was no math in there, but pure luck and he won 1mil in a single bet with odds of 47.3684%

So to show you how does the math work:

In BJ:
You count cards. On a fresh deck you start from 0 and add 1 once you see color card (has value of 10, J, Q, K, A) or subtract 1 if it has a number (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9).
Once the count is 16+ it is considered hot deck.
So when you start counting you do not bet until the deck is HOT.
Once it gets HOT you start betting. then the chance to win is considerably bigger then if you start from beginning.
You should not stop to count. Once the deck cools you should stop betting until the deck gets hot again.

This is how the card counting works.
There is no Rainman needs in order to do it. You do not have to be Monk to do it.
Just need to know how to count to 30 or so and that is it.

What casino does in order to stop you from winning:
1. does not allow you to count the cards.
2. does not allow you to sit and not bet until the deck is hot.
3. stops you if you bet small (because of 2) while the deck is cold and bet big once the deck is hot -> this will trigger the security to ask you to leave.
4. adds 6 decks (or more), making it harder for counting.
5. adds a cut card - the game will stop once the cut cards is next, so you do not use the hole set of cards, just a portion. This makes the counting harder, as you do not know how many big and small cards are in the playable deck.
6. reduces the payout odds in order to reduce the winnings if you count and/or got lucky.
7. other manipulations of the cards in order to not allow you to win.
8. min and max bet - cuts the ability to win back your loss

The roulette has it's otehr sparks:
1. you can not sit and watch it turn if no bets are placed.
2. you have a min and max bet to limit you from using unlimited increments in order to win your loss.
3. Have one 0 in EU and a second 00 in US, just so the casino has better edge (all maths). So instead of having 50-50 chance for the black/red you have 47.36% in EU and 46.1538% in US.
4. some more limitation like electronics (even on physical tables) to manipulate the output to contradict you if you start winning too much.

The slots are killers:
They just use one of the lowest payout odds in the casino.
They are used to take the money of people, yet they are set to pay BIG wins to few in order to attract more ppl to play them.

and so on and so on.

Remember in you play in a casino you are going to lose, as the maths show that and there is no casino that works in loss.
If you play on a game of chance that is made just for fun (has none of the limitation of the casino), they math will make you win no matter how unlucky you are...