Quote from: TokenPayDerek on November 23, 2017, 03:05:43 PM

Quote from: leojust on November 23, 2017, 04:59:54 AM

Quote from: TokenPayDerek on November 23, 2017, 04:18:05 AM

Quote from: leojust on November 23, 2017, 03:37:09 AM

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Quote from: leojust on November 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM

Quote from: Nhebu on November 22, 2017, 09:19:41 AM

I am anticipating 1 year after this project. The people are enjoying to use their debit card and investors fill their company. 2 years from now, tokenpay will dominate the cryptocurrencies.

LOL Their imaginary debit, no card provider is going to issue a debit card to a shady bank purchased for coins on the TOR network.

SCAM PROJECT

Hey Dev how much did these shills cost you? Cheesy

At the moment, the cases with the licenses of the bank look bad! But what will happen at the end of 2018 no one can know! The more the crypto-currency market grows, the faster the payment agglomerates and banks will try to cross it. If the Token Pay project already gives a concept of how to do this - this is the simplest way to implement, you did not think about it?

Tell me how a total privacy coin with not KYC/AML regulation will be able to be used worldwide via a card? Simple answer is it will not because all Western banking nations require information about card holders.

That is why the Dev jumped out of this thread and left it to the paid shills to answer questions he knows the bank thing is a scam and will never happen, neither will the cards.

Leo, I am here. I didn't jump the thread. When you travel the world you will learn that what we are proposing is possible. You keep mentioning WESTERN but if you carefully read our whitepaper you can see where our bank will be.

Leo, you are definitely spewing a lot of false information so I will try my best to clear it all up.

Yes, we did do a 75% pre-mine whereas most, more like 99% of the other "shit coins" do a 100% premine, we are giving 25% for Proof of Stake while other coins are using ETH based coins which have no proof of stake rewards. I call those "Proof of Nothing" Wink

The price per coin is NOT $400 per coin it is $4 and that is because BTC keeps fluctuating and with the 50% bonus it comes down to $3ish. Where did you get $400?

We explained the tiers as best as possible. I am not sure how much you know about business or running an exchange but I will give you some bullet points.

1. In order to have a lot of merchants and consumers on a platform you need to have a liquid and fast exchange for them to convert the crypto they receive to the fiat of their choice. We do not want to rely on another exchange but if we don't reach that goal it will have to come to that.

As for disclaimers. Even banks on WallStreet have disclaimers it is prudent for us as well it does not mean we will not work hard to make all of what we put in the whitepaper possible.

We see our project as having a great blockchain on its own, unlike a lot of these other projects. The Business side to increase adoption of the coin is where the merchant services, debit card and banking come in. In other words, on its own our project is better than 95% of the current projects out there just with the blockchain tech. Which you agree with.

The goal is how to increase adoption of TPAY and we feel our plan is a great way to do that. Will the debit card or bank run on TOR, no. but if someone wants to transfer TPAY to TPAY anonymously they can. What we are doing is bringing the concept of "CASH" to the internet. Cash is extremely anonymous.

So, our block chain tehcnology is bringing that aspect to the online world. When people send TPAY TO TPAY it remains as anonymous as possible but the minute that gets converted to another crypto, fiat or deposited into an exchange that happens to track your IP address, etc. then you have to follow their rules. We can't control that.

We never said in our whitepaper nor in public that TOR will be integrated with the banking and debit card aspects. Nevertheless, a bank CAN issue debit cards that do not have a name attached to it just like AMEX sells debit cards or gift cards with no names attached to it. So, anyone that is interested in banking in a privacy focused jurisdiction they can with TokenPay.

The bank we want to acquire or integrate with is located in Vanuatu, please research on the benefits of that jurisdiction. Over time and stronger relationships I am confident that we could go to other jurisdictions and provide options to the consumer and merchants. In order to run you have to crawl first.

I am concluding that you don't want to have a dialogue as you have been saying the same thing to other boards, nothing but negativity and it gets to a point where there is no point in continuing the dialogue. I tried as best as I could.

Derek

Leo, you are definitely spewing a lot of false information so I will try my best to clear it all up.

Yes, we did do a 75% pre-mine whereas most, more like 99% of the other "shit coins" do a 100% premine, we are giving 25% for Proof of Stake while other coins are using ETH based coins which have no proof of stake rewards. I call those "Proof of Nothing" Wink

The price per coin is NOT $400 per coin it is $4 and that is because BTC keeps fluctuating and with the 50% bonus it comes down to $3ish. Where did you get $400?

We explained the tiers as best as possible. I am not sure how much you know about business or running an exchange but I will give you some bullet points.

1. In order to have a lot of merchants and consumers on a platform you need to have a liquid and fast exchange for them to convert the crypto they receive to the fiat of their choice. We do not want to rely on another exchange but if we don't reach that goal it will have to come to that.

As for disclaimers. Even banks on WallStreet have disclaimers it is prudent for us as well it does not mean we will not work hard to make all of what we put in the whitepaper possible.

We see our project as having a great blockchain on its own, unlike a lot of these other projects. The Business side to increase adoption of the coin is where the merchant services, debit card and banking come in. In other words, on its own our project is better than 95% of the current projects out there just with the blockchain tech. Which you agree with.

The goal is how to increase adoption of TPAY and we feel our plan is a great way to do that. Will the debit card or bank run on TOR, no. but if someone wants to transfer TPAY to TPAY anonymously they can. What we are doing is bringing the concept of "CASH" to the internet. Cash is extremely anonymous.

So, our block chain tehcnology is bringing that aspect to the online world. When people send TPAY TO TPAY it remains as anonymous as possible but the minute that gets converted to another crypto, fiat or deposited into an exchange that happens to track your IP address, etc. then you have to follow their rules. We can't control that.

We never said in our whitepaper nor in public that TOR will be integrated with the banking and debit card aspects. Nevertheless, a bank CAN issue debit cards that do not have a name attached to it just like AMEX sells debit cards or gift cards with no names attached to it. So, anyone that is interested in banking in a privacy focused jurisdiction they can with TokenPay.

The bank we want to acquire or integrate with is located in Vanuatu, please research on the benefits of that jurisdiction. Over time and stronger relationships I am confident that we could go to other jurisdictions and provide options to the consumer and merchants. In order to run you have to crawl first.

I am concluding that you don't want to have a dialogue as you have been saying the same thing to other boards, nothing but negativity and it gets to a point where there is no point in continuing the dialogue. I tried as best as I could.

Derek