Quote from: rovchris on June 19, 2013, 12:30:43 AM

Quote from: JaredR26 on June 18, 2013, 11:54:30 PM

Quote from: rovchris on June 18, 2013, 10:43:36 PM

This is exactly the case for the ASIC miners. None of the companies have behaved in what would be considered a professional manner in any other industry and this is fact. I will say though in Avalon's defence they are by far the best of bad bunch.

Just curious, but in what way has Asicminer/Bitfountain acted unprofessional? High priced? Sure, I'll give you that, easy(Clearly not too high though, hence selling out). But unprofessional? I heard of one guy who emailed wanting to buy and didn't get a prompt response, right about when they sold out. That's the most unprofessional thing I've heard of from AM. Did I miss something?

You are right I was probably a bit too broad there. My gripe with them is this - Bitcoin is about decentralisation and they are heading in the opposite direction. Part of the reason you me and everyone else is here is down to the current FIAT currency systems and the centralised control and generation of money. ASICMiner are establishing themselves as just that. This is not what Bitcoin was about - it was all about removing power from a few individual PRIVATE organisations (which central banks effectively are) and giving it to the people, so we won't have a repeat of 2008 as was stated in the white paper on Bitcoins.

A further bit of speculation and it is just that - What would stop BFL or Avalon or any of the other manufactures creating another company (if they have not already) selling / giving their devices to the other company they own and then mining? That way you can plead innocence but the truth is quite the opposite. There have been so many delays when devices have been available for quite some time it rouses suspicion.

ASICminer may have just been a great deal more honest in that respect but still does not help anyone else.

I see your point from a mining perspective - Asicminer definitely has a massive share of the network mining power - But I think Asicminer is actually better than Avalon and BFL about removing power from a few individual private organizations. Asicminer is nearly 40% publicly owned, and pays its shareholders, thus distributing funds back to the masses. Avalon and BFL are both privately owned. 100% of their profits go directly to the owners, creating a new set of private organizations in control.