Quote from: joeventura on June 19, 2013, 03:04:35 PM

Quote from: kendog77 on June 19, 2013, 02:54:39 PM

Quote from: merv77 on June 19, 2013, 02:20:27 PM

fresh news: http://www.coindesk.com/terrahash-opens-asic-mining-preorders-loses-business/
cloudhash cancelling order... Cry

Interesting, so Terrahash did in fact take pre-order money from at least one big fish before they officially opened up pre-orders to the public. Perhaps the reason why they haven't been forthcoming about the 20k Avalon chip order described in the first post is because a lot of those chips are already accounted for.

The window to get any kind of ROI is so small that I suspect folks that don't get units by August will lose money. It would be nice to know which chip order (and the chip order date) is associated with each order in the queue.

I don't understand comments about ROI and losing money.

If you bought an 18GH unit for $900 and when it gets delivered the cost of BTC is $120 and the Difficulty is 50 million I am still producing $600 a month and break even is 45 days.

How do you lose money? I think the better term to use would be "Extended ROI window?"

Beginner mistake. To calculate ROI you NEVER take BTC value into account. BTC/USD are traded @ spot, so you can ALWAYS purchase BTC at daily price and hold instead of purchasing a miner. The future gain/loss of BTC does not affect ROI of the miner.