Quote from: notme on June 22, 2013, 06:44:10 AM

Agreed, but although one of them got my vote last election (I'll let you guess which one) they didn't have a shot in hell of winning. 90% of people probably went to the polls as said "who the fuck are these guys?". Unfortunately, in America if you aren't Democrat or Republican you are a fringe nut job and the media will paint you as such at every opportunity.

I agree that these guys don't have a shot in hell. That's why I've abstained from the last few elections.

The OP is claiming that "we" have done nothing to deserve what's headed "our" way. While you and I can have a clear conscience when the SHTF, those who vote for large, unsustainable government--and the large, unsustainable debt that comes along with it--will not be able to claim that they had nothing to do with it. In fact, they will be completely responsible for it.