Quote from: Jessy Kang on June 15, 2011, 05:55:15 PM

Great, so Bitcoin- in it's very essence, at the core of it's code is a libertarian "plot". It's bad enough we have Masonic symbols on our paper money- but you go pointing out that Libertarian/Anarchist/Anti-Establishment propaganda is "hidden" in the base CODE? What side are you on? Are you TRYING to sink Bitcoin?

Do you get that these are NOT the talking points you really wanted to put out there? That when the mainstream media like Fox gets that it's not a Drug currency- worse it's a SUBVERSIVE POLITICAL currency they will have a fricking field day?

Look, I'm sure the people that run this place write awesome code but Bitcoin has gotten beyond that. Hire someone, recruit someone corporate- anything. Keep control if you need, but get some better advice and strategy. This is not about how smart people like you guys think, you need to be prepared for how dumb people think.

Jessy Kang, I liked your threads around the forum, but I think you are wrong on this one. Just for the record, I, as a market anarchist, was supporting that the bitcoin exchanges should be and actively look to be regulated (here and here) Im a market anarchist but I am pragmatical and aware of the world we live in.

Bitcoin needs the political influence, otherwise it will loose all credibility. Why? Its very simple.

Bitcoin, as we all know is a decentralized currency, and the implementations of the rules rely on the majority of the network. If a big majority of the people using Bitcoin changed the rules the rules would change or at least there would be a fork and two different Bitcoin currencies, the one with the new rules and the old one. We have seen already in the forum people and crancks with weird ideas about currencies saying or even demanding that the Bitcoin protocol should be changed or otherwise it will never work (according to their more or less lunatic economic theories). If the Bitcoin project looses its heart, the sound money influence, and a majority changes its rules towards a more inflationary currency Bitcoin will start to decline until it collapses. The funny thing with inflation is that it produces a long term destruction process that its not obvious initially, so people not well versed in economics or without personal experience in a inflationary collapse, go along with it and dont realize what they have done until the collapse is happening.

If we do what you are asking Bitcoin is probably doomed.

Now, you are right in one thing: This forums are bad PR for the Bitcoin project. But it is not because of libertarianism. I have the same opinion that the forums are not right. For me its two factors: the afluence of people only interested in getting rich quick and a massive attack of trolls. Go check the forums when Bitcoin was starting. I was there and I can tell you it was much more civil. Now the forum lives on histeria, its even stressing. I believe that the trolls are doing their job mocking everybody, confusing people and basically getting everyone angry. This tension is transmited and we start talking to each other more aggressively. Its not good. I myself am guilty of this, and regret the tone of some comentaries I have made lately.

We agree something needs to be done. In my opinion the forum deseperately needs more moderation. Specially not allowing anyone to start new threads with similar tematic as another (basically if anyone starts a redundant thread just join it together with the original one). We need to regain the civil discourse that we had at the begginning. This way people will be much more calm and the way they expose their ideas will be more paleatable to other people.