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Bitcoinorama,

With all due respect, how can manufacturing incompetence of B#3 affect chip orders, except out of spite?

It is not like the chip orders are given prioroty over miners. If that were so, I would be in concurrence.

In fact batch #3 enourmous price was calculated on some estimated difficulty, once they ship chips first they will pump up the difficulty, screwing all batch #3 customers over, and will not fulfill the deal/agreement with customers

Very true, but as customers we can just take our money back and put it elsewhere. That's the only thing we have left.

If he can refund Batch3, why can't he refund chip orders? Its the same thing. He is just being greedy, and it hurts him to see the money going out.

Post your order # and let's see if Bitsyncom refunds you. After all this whining, I'm pretty sure he will. Let's see, give it a try of you want it so badly.

I haven't even ordered yet. And I don't think I will. His practice is shady.

So... You want to place an order for 10,000 chips, an order Avalon has to forward to the fab and pay for it, but at the same time you want to keep the right to chicken out if the difficulty skyrockets before you receive them? This is what you want, right?

What do you believe, that they can get refunds for their fab? Keep dreaming, TSMC won't refund any customer that "chickens out".

He is certainly not paying 80,000 USD for 10,000 chips to TSMC. And he is certainly not ordering 10,000 chips at a time. And as I have said before, his product being in high demand, he can sell that order to someone else. I am sure he loves to have minions like you around who would do his job of fooling people for him.