Quote from: CoinHoarder on December 03, 2017, 11:05:05 PM

You could be right, and you could be wrong. It doesn't matter really.

Im not predicting there will be a SegWit theft. Im intending to raise awareness of the (possibly small) possibility. I would need to do a lot more in depth study if I wanted to attempt to compute the probability and potential timing. I do not have time to waste on that.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on December 03, 2017, 11:05:05 PM

There is no use fighting against BCH. There is no virtue in the crypto world.

Im trying to influence you to be a bit jaded, but not totally so. Theres still virtue (i.e. method in the madness) in the process which will fleece so many. Remember the big fish dont control the climate or what we eat for breakfast (i.e. the minions matter but only decentralized, theyre never organized).

Heres one philosophical stance:

Quote from: CornCube on December 03, 2017, 09:36:30 PM

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I agree on a lot of the stances here (one of the reasons to contact you, by the way, I had read some of these discussions). My thoughts in these matters are influenced a lot by Nietzsche's work (to grossly simplify: everyone constructs their perspective, which many then call "truth", based on power considerations, the goal being maximizing power, and this happens mostly subconsciously). But this also means that labeling something as "good" or "evil" falls within this personal perspective. For big groups of weaker people, this might lead them to socialist-flavored value systems (of which Christianity is one, imo), and for strong people this might lead them to very individualistic or even harsh (to others) value systems.
This is however NOT to say I like cultural/phiosophical relativism. In a sense, once one has understood perspectivism, one has to take a step back and "pick a team" as it were, or one never gets anywhere. And then automatically one accepts some lies/faith/dogma/enemies whatever.
Personally, I'm kind of sad about the state of the West today, where these modernist/relativist/leftist/anti-exceptionalist/scientism values have taken hold, but maybe this view isn't warranted. Maybe, the greater a culture becomes, the more refuse it produces? Or a couple of weak generations lay the groundwork for new strong generations... Anyway I'm just splashing around now.

Apparently nature needs the localized failure so evolution is antifragile (constantly annealing to avoid commitment to top-down error). Perhaps rather than be disappointed, we should just see it for what it is and adapt accordingly within the limitations of our personal time horizons and such.

Did you see my improvement over Cs if-else, ternary operator, while, do-while?

My quoted response above is to some extent a restatement or example of the aphorism: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on December 03, 2017, 11:05:05 PM

I still think you are way off on your BTCSatoshi theory though. It is dead and buried IMO.

Can you even run a node for it? Is anyone mining it? Is it being traded anywhere?

I haven't seen any evidence of it, just a few mumblings about it here and there from maybe 3 people total...

Those mumbling at TMSR (trilema.com) represent millions of BTC.

It actually doesnt matter who is running their client now. What matters is that millions of BTC believes Bitcoin has no value if it can be mutated, because the smart people understand that Bitcoin is more valuable as a reserve currency of the wealthy, because the wealthy matter and the masses (sheep to be harvested) do not (in a paradigm that is not decentralized, which proof-of-work can never be!). That is just economics. Even Trump understands it:

Quote from: https://motls.blogspot.com/2017/12/congratulations-to-americas-tax-reform.html

Most importantly, a big tax cut (from 35% to 20%) is planned for the corporations which will make the U.S. society richer, especially in the long run. Companies are the places that can use extra cash most effectively partially as an investment allocated by some of America's best managers which is why the lowering of their taxes is the best investment for the whole. Everyone who fails to get this simple point of trickle-down or supply side economics is just an economics (and history) crackpot. Try to cover it by your left-wing beliefs or anything else but it's actually crackpottery that is behind it.

However, the bigger fish eat the little fish paradigm doesnt scale to only one big fish that ate everything (this is why the Zionists ultimately fail), i.e. even though wealth is power-law distributed, still 50% remains with the minnows (but they cant organize themselves politically and thus precisely why we need true decentralization). Thus I still continue working on my altcoin protocol.

Congratulations on a discussion that managed to not go off the rails and afaics actually stimulated both of us to write down points that may be interesting for other readers.