Quote from: atomicchaos on July 06, 2013, 03:20:29 AM

Quote from: gill83 on July 06, 2013, 02:52:28 AM

Quote from: Axion_Zen on July 06, 2013, 02:40:35 AM

Why did you guys even bother pre-ordering if you cant handle waiting? its been a week..there is no chips and nothing is ready let them work and when end of July comes then get antsy(if they even receive chips by then).

These are all the pussies who are wussing out now because of the falling USD/BTC value. Just keep watching, they all will want back in once it goes up. Fucking whiners.

Oh whining like this?

Quote from: gill83 on June 24, 2013, 09:30:02 AM

Quote from: Rampion on June 24, 2013, 09:12:04 AM

Quote from: gill83 on June 24, 2013, 08:47:46 AM

Quote from: Rampion on June 24, 2013, 06:35:44 AM

He just said that chip orders are placed every week.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean its true. Unless he shows some evidence, I don't believe him. Avalon is the last company I would ever invest in.

OK, then you took your decision, time to move on.

Stop worshipping him like a God. His company should be scrutinized for illegal practices.

Quote from: gill83 on June 25, 2013, 05:04:23 AM

So, Yifu says he prices Batch2/Batch3 and chips not according to their manufacturing cost, but based on profitability calculated by estimated difficulty. And that's why he is offering a refund to Batch3 because the shipment has been delayed and the difficulty has risen significantly.

So if the prices are based on difficulty, why doesn't the chips price go down every day/week? He should keep reducing the prices for new chip orders based on the increasing difficulty!

Quote from: gill83 on June 24, 2013, 05:40:20 AM

Quote from: Vycid on June 24, 2013, 05:35:08 AM

You can say that legitimate businesses would have a refund policy, but not having a refund policy is not illegal (as long as the promised goods are delivered), and it is clear that the money is needed to actually manufacture the goods, so a refund policy would not be practical regardless of how legitimate the business is.

I know its not illegal to not refund the money. Thats why I said "any legitimate business" and not "any business". Since his product is in high demand, he can always sell it again. His decision not to refund pre-orders makes me smell scam. That's all I am saying

Excellent Atomic!