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This assclown we know as Josh,i'm totally convinced that he is a sociopath or border line to being one.

Yep, BFL is a lethal danger to Bitcoin. They have too much power now and are totally corrupt liars. Those crooks must be stopped before ruining Bitcoin. It is not a coincidence that Litecoin is attracting more and more attention everyday.

OK, seriously, how is BFL a "lethal danger" to Bitcoin? Assoles, sure, but a "lethal danger", no way. The output of Avalon (particularly the chip buys) and ASICMiner is going to quickly outstrip BFL's output, so even if they stopped shipping their units and attempted to 51% attack, that wouldn't go anywhere.

BFL has taken in more money than Avalon and ASICMiner combined together.

We all know when you have more money in a particular market,you have more control

and influence.I remember back in the 90's Microsoft won the battle with Netscape by giving kickbacks

to vendors who adopted Internet Explorer.

Point being, BFL currently rules with an iron fist in the BTC mining industry.

ASICMiner currently has a low GH/s per dollar ratio,compared to BFL's ASIC's

Avalon's ASIC's has a high power consumption,and low per GH/s per dollar compared some BFL's ASIC's.

This is one reason why BFL focused on low power consumption,and high GH/s,because it appears

to be something not quite easy for ASIC vendors to currently do.That gives BFL an edge over all the current competition.

Err... Yeah, but unlike Avalon and ASICMiner, BFL have been late to the party. Unlike the browser wars where Microsoft used their clout with software licensing of Windows to force IE on everyone (or risk not being allowed to sell/distribute Windows, which would basically kill any builder company), this industry is very different. Money goes to those who get product in the wild first, those who join late literally miss out, due to the difficulty rise. BFL's only saving grace longer term at this point is that their chips are more efficient, so will continue to be profitable for longer than Avalon and equivalent chips.

I'd strongly recommend you take a few steps back, relax a little and consider things more objectively and less crazily. Next thing we know you'll be bringing out references to Freemasons, CIA conspiracies and if we're really lucky, rainbows in water sprinklers like that crazy girl on youtube who reckons the US Govt is brainwashing people with stuff in the water.

I beg to differ,BFL has came out ahead by taking in more money than AsicMiner and Avalon and not delivering even half of the hardware

currently on pre-order damn near a year later,and still accepting money for pre-orders.

It doesn't take an Actuary to figure out who's gaining and who's losing.

And you're telling me that Bill Gates wasn't abusive with power to where the Department filed charges against

Microsoft?

Google: "United States v. Microsoft Corporation"

And you recommend that i relax and take a step back?

I recommend you grow some testicles and step up and see things for what they really are.

The NSA been spying on people since Bush signed the Patriot Act,but it was nay sayers

like you that suffered from Cognitive Dissonance.And now Edward Snowden confirmed it.

I guess it's a theory that BFL has all their customer's best interest in mind

and that we should be more patient,and be grateful that BFL has never lied and

has always been open and honest with all of it's customers.And BFL isn't and never will

scam all of it's customers,and put it's customers first because they are really nice fun loving people?

The NSA has been spying... Amazingly I really don't care. Bleat about civil rights and the constitution? Again I don't care, because I'm not American, and if you actually read the constitution of my country it has no specific sections regarding the rights of the individual (not surprising given how it was founded).
I do see things for what they really are. I'd have been amazed if the NSA/CIA/Whatever had NOT been spying, after all that is what they exist for. It would be naive to expect they wouldn't be recording things. That isn't cognitive dissonance (which would be an accurate description if I genuinely believed the NSA were not spying), its just cynicism. I would expect that all similar organisations of the world superpowers would be doing exactly the same thing.

My point with BFL is that no sane business would aim to make customers hate them. Its unprofitable to operate that way. They would want to deliver a product as quickly and effectively as possible in order to crush competition and ensure they gain the maximum market share and hence, profit. By your understanding, they currently exist to alienate their customers, abuse those who made pre-orders and deliver nothing except to their friends and family? Any organisation in the western world that operates that way either has to be truly massive, or it will die pretty quickly as their customer base dries up and competition develops. In addition, being based in a country rife with litigation, the risk would be enormous. No sane business would operate in the US if they were going to pull that kind of stunt. Instead they would operate out of somewhere such as China, where litigation paths are distinctly more limited for non-Chinese.